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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

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    You saying other minorities are stupid?
    No, but you just did...

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Asian americans are not smarter than any other american by default. There are plenty of good for nothing, gang-related criminal asians too. But their culture doesn't have the whole victimhood mentality on display and they don't encourage it. Similar to how say, blacks and latinos have a victim mentality that they enforce upon themselves and how white guilt is false and wrongfully fabricated every day in the media.
    I believe you are trying to say Asians are more stoic...

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I believe you are trying to say Asians are more stoic...
    No, I'm stoic. As in, I actually read stoic philosophy as written by the romans... I say romans because most documents that survived were roman documents, greek documents regarding classical stoicism have been lost in their original.

    No, Asians are just not stoic. People can become stoic through learning and discipline. It's not so much about race as about personality... if you're an overly emotional savage who can't control yourself you will only bring misfortune on yourself.

    Anyway. What asians have is a culture that hasn't embraced professional victimhood. You don't see the NAACP making a case that tests should be easier because asians can't pass them. You don't see the NAACP making a case that the fire department in NYC should lower it's standards because no asians got in. You don't see such things because asians haven't mainstreamed in their culture the idea that they're victims. Why? Because there is nowhere in their history where they have embraced such a mentality or whereever it has been adopted, it was wiped out. American culture doesn't encourage victimhood. I'm talking about the real american culture, the kind that makes people want to become americans and move to america not the holywood, MTV crap. No asian culture of any background encourages people to think of themselves as helpless victims. So they don't have it. That's it. It's a small difference that makes all the difference in the world. It makes the difference between being the group that has a small drop-out rate to being the one that has huge drop-out rates. it makes the difference between being the one that gets the high paying, post-college jobs and working the minimum wage.

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    No, I'm stoic. As in, I actually read stoic philosophy as written by the romans... I say romans because most documents that survived were roman documents, greek documents regarding classical stoicism have been lost in their original.

    No, Asians are just not stoic. People can become stoic through learning and discipline. It's not so much about race as about personality... if you're an overly emotional savage who can't control yourself you will only bring misfortune on yourself.

    Anyway. What asians have is a culture that hasn't embraced professional victimhood. You don't see the NAACP making a case that tests should be easier because asians can't pass them. You don't see the NAACP making a case that the fire department in NYC should lower it's standards because no asians got in. You don't see such things because asians haven't mainstreamed in their culture the idea that they're victims. Why? Because there is nowhere in their history where they have embraced such a mentality or whereever it has been adopted, it was wiped out. American culture doesn't encourage victimhood. I'm talking about the real american culture, the kind that makes people want to become americans and move to america not the holywood, MTV crap. No asian culture of any background encourages people to think of themselves as helpless victims. So they don't have it. That's it. It's a small difference that makes all the difference in the world. It makes the difference between being the group that has a small drop-out rate to being the one that has huge drop-out rates. it makes the difference between being the one that gets the high paying, post-college jobs and working the minimum wage.
    I said stoic, not Stoic. Not saying you're not but reading the Stoics no more makes you stoic than reading People makes you a celebrity.


    .Their culture not their skin tone is what I was referring to...

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    I said stoic, not Stoic. Not saying you're not but reading the Stoics no more makes you stoic than reading People makes you a celebrity.


    .Their culture not their skin tone is what I was referring to...
    What?

    True, but putting it in practice does.

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Because their culture does not encourage being a professional victim.
    I am unaware that there is a culture that encourages victimhood.
    As much as I'm flattered at your comments on our culture, I believe that you have a misconception about other cultures.
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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    I am unaware that there is a culture that encourages victimhood.
    As much as I'm flattered at your comments on our culture, I believe that you have a misconception about other cultures.
    It's an oversimplification for debating purposes. I can't write a wall of text for every notion that I bring up. I am not flattering you or your culture.

    All countries who wish to prosper need to adopt a certain model for their society. And all people who wish to prosper within such societies need to play by the rules and adopt a healthy mentality. Korean culture is different than say... american or european in the way customs are made. Food, holidays, preference in literature, etc. It's not different in the values that they hold as true for prosperity and success. You can tweak them here and there, but the principle is true.
    -Strong sense of identity and your role in society
    -An economic model that values private enterprise in conjucture with public works.
    -Good education model
    -Respecting and investing in science and innovation
    -Respecting human rights
    -etc.

    These values along with things like freedom of the press, democracy and freedom of expression and tolerance form a whole package which we here call western values.

    No country that values stupidity and anti-education will ever prosper. A country that doesn't have a sense of unity and identity will surely succumb to civil war or at least some civil strife. No country that won't invest in science and innovation will ever be a world leader. etc

    Anyway, above i wasn't talking about countries who have a victim mentality, though there may be some, I was talking about subcultures in america that promote victimhood. Basically all subcultures that are related to the NAACP and form their primary interest have a victimhood mentality. And I was saying that asian american subculture doesn't have that streak of victimhood mentality that is so popular in the NAACP repertoire.

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    Re: US adults are dumber than the average human

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    What?

    True, but putting it in practice does.
    One's an adjective, the other a noun.

    Yes, yes it does.

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