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Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

ARealConservative said:
radical is just buzz words to poison the well so to speak. There was nothing radical about their opposition to our foreign policy.

The tea party movement were born out of Bush's reckless spending and foreign policy. Like any political movement that gains in numbers, it becomes co-opted by others over time.
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There is opposition and there is radical opposition. I think much of code pink could be described as radical opposition.
 
disneydude said:
LOL...Thank YOU once again for proving me correct, Conservative. You cannot fight the urge to try to cavort, conjole, twist, spin, rationalize, justify...practically do everything that you can possibly do to try to rehabilitate and justify your hero's failed legacy. I understand, Conservative....you can't help it.
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No and apparently you don't understand that there is nothing we can do about the Bush debt but we can about the Obama economic performance and the next three years. Instead of focusing on the Obama agenda and policies you want to discuss Bush and programs we can do nothing to change. Obama has three years left, has shutdown the govt. because he didn't get his way and now wants to increase the debt ceiling indicating no concern about the growing debt. If Obama was concerned about the debt and proposed spending cuts there would be no reason to increase the debt ceiling.
 
A half trillion dollars of each Obama budget is due to the TAD he inherited.
Kansas-Carry on my wayward son.
 
More ridiculous bull**** from the so-called media.

This, a poll of "random adults" from New York, on the Republican strategy concerning negotiations on raising the debt limit. I'd like to know the proportion of those surveyed who even know the difference between Republicans and Democrats, or the number who were able to correctly identify Obama's party. Some of these people probably don't even know who Obama is.
 
Awesome! said:
Shocking what the GOP expects to get out
of this when you have such a strong economic recovery under Obamas leadership and the greatest piece of legislation in the history of the known world and even in the unknown world or worlds. For example when we start traveling to other planets and discover that other beings inhabit the universe with their own laws and legislation, it won't even come close to matching Obamacare or if we get sucked into a black hole which turns out to be a time warp sending us a million years into the future, all we will see is people or alien beings still thankful for Obamacare. So based on this, I think the GOP will tank and predict another of many more to come Obama victories...
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Obama-Care > E=MC2...

You're right.

The Libs, even if they "win" this have nothing left to fall back on.

I meam how many times can you listen to someone tell you " the econonic recovery is right around the corner" before you finnaly chalk up their rhetoric to the ravings of a meth addict high on paint thinner and Peyote ?

I think the Website is "down" for a damn good reason.

The Democrats don't exactly want everyone to know just how much they've gotten screwed by the most "compassionate " political party in the whole Universe.

Not yet anyway. I expect after the mid terms it will be up running like a well oiled machine.....built by liars and crack head ideologist.

Well as well as a machine could run that was built by liars and glue heads
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
The inspections are meant to find the source of the contamination and fix it before more people get sick
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Also, trace back to the source of contamination after people get sick and take action, which is something a state can't do if the food comes from another state
 
sangha said:
Also, trace back to the source of contamination after people get sick and take action, which is something a state can't do if the food comes from another state
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And of course there are no state records to do that?
 
disneydude said:
So Bush gets a "free ride" for 911? Wow....more spin and attempts to justify.....What about all the debt from Iraq that Bush just put on a credit card?
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And the trillions for TARP, Medicare D, and the Iraq War that was spent under Obama but passed under bush*?
 
sangha said:
$1Trillion was not due to 9/11
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Take that up with the General Accounting Office that disagrees with you but what does that matter now. Bush left office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt, today it is approaching 17 trillion. We can do nothing about the 10.6 trillion but we can do something about the 17 trillion dollar debt by cutting spending, and getting 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work paying taxes. Obama and liberals have no interest in cutting spending and no interest in implementing a pro growth economic policy as it would destroy the dependence that liberalism is creating.

Direct and indirect costs of 9/11

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02700r.pdf
 
Conservative said:
Take that up with the General Accounting Office that disagrees with you but what does that matter now. Bush left office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt, today it is approaching 17 trillion. We can do nothing about the 10.6 trillion but we can do something about the 17 trillion dollar debt by cutting spending, and getting 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work paying taxes. Obama and liberals have no interest in cutting spending and no interest in implementing a pro growth economic policy as it would destroy the dependence that liberalism is creating.

Direct and indirect costs of 9/11

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02700r.pdf
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You are lying about what the GAO said
 
sangha said:
And the trillions for TARP, Medicare D, and the Iraq War that was spent under Obama but passed under bush*?
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Wow, same old distorted data and pro socialism we have learned to expect from people like you. TARP and Medicare Part D didn't cost trillions, and the cost of Iraq is in the 10.6 trillion debt Obama inherited. The status of Forces agreement negotiated by Bush in 2008 ended the war but don't let facts get in the way of your opinions. Why such passion for failed economic policies and results of Obamanomics? Do you really want a massive central govt. with people dependent on liberalism?
 
Conservative said:
Wow, same old distorted data and pro socialism we have learned to expect from people like you. TARP and Medicare Part D didn't cost trillions, and the cost of Iraq is in the 10.6 trillion debt Obama inherited. The status of Forces agreement negotiated by Bush in 2008 ended the war but don't let facts get in the way of your opinions. Why such passion for failed economic policies and results of Obamanomics? Do you really want a massive central govt. with people dependent on liberalism?
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More lies
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We've been over this before in your previous BDS defenses of bush*'s economic incompetence.

Conservative said:
Then point out those lies, I gave you the article, get someone to help you read it
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Everything you said about the report is a lie
 
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Conservative said:
Take that up with the General Accounting Office that disagrees with you but what does that matter now. Bush left office with a 10.6 trillion dollar debt, today it is approaching 17 trillion. We can do nothing about the 10.6 trillion but we can do something about the 17 trillion dollar debt by cutting spending, and getting 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers back to work paying taxes. Obama and liberals have no interest in cutting spending and no interest in implementing a pro growth economic policy as it would destroy the dependence that liberalism is creating.

Direct and indirect costs of 9/11

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02700r.pdf
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Do you believe that your hero...the man that you idolize had any interest in cutting spending and in implementing a pro growth economic policy?
 
sangha said:
More lies
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We've been over this before in your previous BDS defenses of bush*'s economic incompetence.



Everything you said about the report is a lie
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LOL, yep, typical liberal diversion and distortion. You were asked a question, why such passion for a failed liberal ideology? Don't worry you are succeeding in building that massive dependence on a large central govt. so why don't we just do away with the states completely, send all the money to the Federal Govt. and have them distribute as they see fit. Looking for that federal handout in New York? I know California is.
 
disneydude said:
Do you believe that your hero...the man that you idolize had any interest in cutting spending and in implementing a pro growth economic policy?
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Tax cuts are pro growth economic policy, Medicare Part D inserted competition into Medicare and was 1/2 of what Ted Kennedy proposed and both beat anything Obama has done.
 
Conservative said:
LOL, yep, typical liberal diversion and distortion. You were asked a question, why such passion for a failed liberal ideology? Don't worry you are succeeding in building that massive dependence on a large central govt. so why don't we just do away with the states completely, send all the money to the Federal Govt. and have them distribute as they see fit. Looking for that federal handout in New York? I know California is.
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You lied about $1Trillion being the result of 9/11. Your questions will not divert attention away from that lie.
 
sangha said:
You lied about $1Trillion being the result of 9/11. Your questions will not divert attention away from that lie.
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Well then the GAO lied and apparently you know better than they do, but then again you are a legend in your own mind.
 
sangha said:
No, you lied. The GAO report doesn't say $1trillion of the debt is the result of 9/11
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I forgot who I was dealing with here as we have a history. it certainly is a waste of time dealing with someone who obviously needs a big central govt, and Obamanomics due to an inability to live on your own in a private sector economy

I know that math is among the things you don't understand so if you can find a friend ask one to add up all the direct and indirect costs in that report. This will be my last post to you until you do so and then apologize. I can beat you up all day with numbers but it is a waste of time because liberals only think with their heart and not their brain.
 
Obama is a Dictator and his army of Obots cheer

What sad and pathetic theatre

Obama's approval is at 37% right now. He's not winning the shutdown war, though his army of Goebbels propagandists in the media are sure doing everything they can make you think the opposite

Why shouldn't private citizens get the same exemptions his corporate cronies have? Obamacare is a disaster. People are losing hours. Their premiums are skyrocketing. Obama isn't "winning" anything.
 
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