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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Mithros;1062437730]This may make your brain hurt so I'll go slow. I'm not even sure why I'm doing this because you are unlikey to actually read it.

    CBO's job is to look at the current law and project what the law will cost. So, in 2009 the CBO sat down and said. We expect that result of the policies in place now will generate a 1.2 Trillion dollar deficit. That is the very definition of inhereted. Not that facts matter to you.
    I have no problem with that however what you want to ignore is the CBO's own report on the 2009 projections stated that the bank bailouts were considered and that means the 700 billion dollar TARP program. Now what you and others want to ignore is that Bush spent 350 billion of it before he left office, Obama spent another 130 or so billion. In 2009 almost 300 billion was repaid that somehow forgot to get back into the Treasury. Now that is a fact so don't you think that 300 billion should be deducted from what you want to blame Bush for? how about the 200 billion Stimulus spending? How about the 200 billion in Afghanistan and Iraq supplmentals prepared by Obama. Why would you charge Bush for that Obama spending? Further how do you blame Bush for a budget that wasn't passed or signed until the Democrats did it in March 2009? Now exactly who isn't paying any attention to facts?

    I still don't get it. I'd be pretty ashamed if I was caught saying that Bush's recession was Clintons fault but Obama's first deficit was 100% his. Do you even care about being right? I guess that's the difference between us. I strive to be pragmatic, intellecutally honest, and follow the truth wherever it may lead. You spout whatever some tea party talk show host told you to spout.
    Interesting that the 2001 deficit was all Bush's. That is the way leadership works especially when you take office, implement your shovel ready jobs program that was supposed to keep unemployment below 8% which would have generated enough revenue to fund his spending but that didn't happen. You see, Obama's stimulus was signed in early February. Bush didn't get an economic plan in place until July. It was the Clinton recession unless you can show what economic policies Bush had in place the day he took office to create that recession. Shovel ready jobs should have created more taxpayers thus more revenue, shouldn't they?

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    he inherited it
    This sounds very familiar.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    This sounds very familiar.

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    Such is leadership, I ran a 200 million dollar a year business taking over from another person. I inherited everything that he did including his numbers. It was my responsibility to accept those numbers and make the better. Every leader inherits something from his/her predecessor and what they do with it determines success or failure. I would have loved to inherit the numbers Bush left but I would have made the better not worse like Obama did but I guess that is the difference between a leader and someone like Obama who has zero leadership skills.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    Such is leadership, I ran a 200 million dollar a year business taking over from another person. I inherited everything that he did including his numbers. It was my responsibility to accept those numbers and make the better. Every leader inherits something from his/her predecessor and what they do with it determines success or failure. I would have loved to inherit the numbers Bush left but I would have made the better not worse like Obama did but I guess that is the difference between a leader and someone like Obama who has zero leadership skills.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wonder if it is good politics to support a program that is supported by 38% of the population but it is good politics to divert from those polls numbers to blaming the Republicans for the shutdown. Liberals do that a lot

    RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Public Approval of Health Care Law

    Eventually the govt. shutdown is going to end but the reality is that Obamacare will be unpopular and will remain law. My bet is the electorate will remember who created that law
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Too bad he wasn't elected President, he certainly beats the street thug from Chicago.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Such is leadership, I ran a 200 million dollar a year business taking over from another person. I inherited everything that he did including his numbers. It was my responsibility to accept those numbers and make the better. Every leader inherits something from his/her predecessor and what they do with it determines success or failure. I would have loved to inherit the numbers Bush left but I would have made the better not worse like Obama did but I guess that is the difference between a leader and someone like Obama who has zero leadership skills.
    You're a ****ing idiot.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Too bad he wasn't elected President, he certainly beats the street thug from Chicago.
    If he was elected, the American people what have to live through a second GOP great recession. We cannot afford to go back to the same failed bush policies that created the Bushian great recession in the first place.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    If he was elected, the American people what have to live through a second GOP great recession. We cannot afford to go back to the same failed bush policies that created the Bushian great recession in the first place.
    It's Bush's fault

    it's Bush's fault

    its Bush's fault


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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    It's Bush's fault

    it's Bush's fault

    its Bush's fault

    It did take 12 years to recover from the Great Depression. While I don't think it will take that long to recover from the recession, it could if the teaparty is as determined as they've shown to sabotage the economy.

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