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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    Thought this term Teabagger was offensive to you folks.. Tell that to the OTR truckers, or don't you care for your brethren..forgot you were fortune 500,000 .
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Isn't this the Chicago way? Congratulations liberals, you really have a winner in Obama

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    Bush inherited a recession and had 9/11. He had a split Congress from 2001-2003. Republicans Controlled the Congress from 2003-2007. What is a great way to be taken seriously is to put things into context something you and other liberals never do. Let me help you here, Bush had 52 straight months of private sector job growth but somehow that fact escapes you. We are talking about the 2006 election so I would be happy to take the economic results from January 21, 2001 to election day in 2006. You seem to have a comprehension problem. You have no idea what the economic numbers were from when he took office to November 2006 nor do you care. My point was there was no economic justification for the Republicans to lose the Congress and BLS.gov, BEA.gov, and the Treasury make my point. Good example



    4.5% Unemployment rate and the Republicans lose Congress? It was all about Iraq and the media spin even though we were winning in Iraq.
    That's a good point. Context is important. Bush inhereted a recession. Obama inhereted a 1.2 Trillion dollar deficit.

    Context.

    Hmmm... it would seem that you seem to be the one unable to see "context" when it comes to people who disagree with you.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    That's a good point. Context is important. Bush inhereted a recession. Obama inhereted a 1.2 Trillion dollar deficit.

    Context.

    Hmmm... it would seem that you seem to be the one unable to see "context" when it comes to people who disagree with you.
    No, bush* did not inherit a recession. It was over before he took office
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    That's a good point. Context is important. Bush inhereted a recession. Obama inhereted a 1.2 Trillion dollar deficit.

    Context.

    Hmmm... it would seem that you seem to be the one unable to see "context" when it comes to people who disagree with you.
    No he didn't inherit a deficit, he inherited a 10.6 trillion dollar debt. Deficits aren't inherited. The Bush Budget was never passed by Congress and never signed by Bush but that fact escapes you. Bush didn't create the 844 billion dollar stimulus plan of which 200 plus billion was spent in 2009. Bush didn't take over GM/Chrysler which was 52 billion dollars. Bush didn't create the Afghanistan supplementals of over 200 billion dollars spent in 2009, and Bush certainly wasn't able to credit the repayment of almost 250 billion dollars of TARP money repaid in fiscal year 2009. Add all those up and the Bush projected deficit would have been close to what he submitted in February 2008. You really are out of touch with reality and let the left make a fool out of you.

    Please tell me why you want to continue this discussion which makes you look foolish. I can beat you up all day with the actual numbers, facts, logic, and common sense that you cannot counter. Are you that much in Obama's back pocket that you cannot see what he has done to this country and the economy? What is it about Obama that creates this kind of loyalty.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, bush* did not inherit a recession. It was over before he took office
    Really? Have you told that to NBER? Recession began in March 2001 and ended in November 2001 but I guess you know best.

    http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

    Do liberals ever apologize and admit when they are wrong?

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Bush inherited a recession and had 9/11. He had a split Congress from 2001-2003. Republicans Controlled the Congress from 2003-2007. What is a great way to be taken seriously is to put things into context something you and other liberals never do. Let me help you here, Bush had 52 straight months of private sector job growth but somehow that fact escapes you. We are talking about the 2006 election so I would be happy to take the economic results from January 21, 2001 to election day in 2006. You seem to have a comprehension problem. You have no idea what the economic numbers were from when he took office to November 2006 nor do you care. My point was there was no economic justification for the Republicans to lose the Congress and BLS.gov, BEA.gov, and the Treasury make my point. Good example



    4.5% Unemployment rate and the Republicans lose Congress? It was all about Iraq and the media spin even though we were winning in Iraq.
    Also, for the record the private sector job performance of the last 15 years has been mainly influenced by the advances in international communication. This has greatly increased the ease of outsourcing. The average US worker is no longer insulated from the rest of the world.

    20 years ago, it was better to be a C student in the US than a genious in China. That's no longer the case, and the employment picture reflects that.

    The policies that influence job growth in the US aren't ones that were implemented last week, last year, or last president. They're the educational policies implmented 20-40 years ago. If you want to compete in todays job market, you need to compete on an international level... .our primary and secondary education systems fail in that regard.

    Context...

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Really? Have you told that to NBER? Recession began in March 2001 and ended in November 2001 but I guess you know best.

    http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

    Do liberals ever apologize and admit when they are wrong?
    You're right. The recession didn't end before bush* took office - it hadn't even begun!!

    bush* inherited a growing economy. Thanks for pointing that out
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No he didn't inherit a deficit, he inherited a 10.6 trillion dollar debt. Deficits aren't inherited. The Bush Budget was never passed by Congress and never signed by Bush but that fact escapes you. Bush didn't create the 844 billion dollar stimulus plan of which 200 plus billion was spent in 2009. Bush didn't take over GM/Chrysler which was 52 billion dollars. Bush didn't create the Afghanistan supplementals of over 200 billion dollars spent in 2009, and Bush certainly wasn't able to credit the repayment of almost 250 billion dollars of TARP money repaid in fiscal year 2009. Add all those up and the Bush projected deficit would have been close to what he submitted in February 2008. You really are out of touch with reality and let the left make a fool out of you.

    Please tell me why you want to continue this discussion which makes you look foolish. I can beat you up all day with the actual numbers, facts, logic, and common sense that you cannot counter. Are you that much in Obama's back pocket that you cannot see what he has done to this country and the economy? What is it about Obama that creates this kind of loyalty.
    CBO Fiscal Outlook 2009-2017
    This is what Obama inhereted. And fiscal years are Oct-Sept, not January- Dec

    How do you do it? Seriously. How the hell can you hold such ridiculously contrasting ideas in your head and still consider yourself to be a thinking person? On one hand you blame Clinton for the first 2 years of the Bush administration, while simultaneously holding Obama responsible for the year BEFORE he even took office. It's staggering. And then you rant on about how I don't understand context. Sign...

    I'm just glad the Tea Party nutters will never be able to use the debt ceiling again as leverage. It seems like the President can now raise the debt ceiling without congress. (sometimes it's good to be able to read)

    But please, continue to make me look 'foolish'.
    (PS. I do not think this word means what you think it means)

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You're right. The recession didn't end before bush* took office - it hadn't even begun!!

    bush* inherited a growing economy. Thanks for pointing that out
    The recession started over the uncertanty in the 2001 election. I remember that being one of the reasons Gore was pressured to leave. Every day the recount dragged on, the stock market dropped lower.

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