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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It isn't for me to rehabilitate his legacy that will be up to historians but when that rehabilitation occurs I really fear for your mental health. You have too much invested in hatred based upon economic and civics ignorance. You tell me why any CONSERVATIVE would vote for Gore or Kerry? I cannot believe the ignorance of people like you
    Oh I'm sure there were a lot of people who didn't like GWB (especially the second time around) who voted for him nevertheless because they disliked Kerry even more. You, however, are not one of those people. It is abundantly clear that you voted for him for other reasons.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh I'm sure there were a lot of people who didn't like GWB (especially the second time around) who voted for him nevertheless because they disliked Kerry even more. You, however, are not one of those people. It is abundantly clear that you voted for him for other reasons.
    Yes, I voted for him because Kerry was the alternative and because the economic results in 2004 were headed improving dramatically, economic results that you would never understand, lower unemployment, growing labor force, strong economic growth, and more personal income due to the July 2003 tax cuts.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, I voted for him because Kerry was the alternative and because the economic results in 2004 were headed improving dramatically, economic results that you would never understand, lower unemployment, growing labor force, strong economic growth, and more personal income due to the July 2003 tax cuts.
    LOL...and look were that got us.....DOH! ....oh....whoops...I forget, you still believe that GWB led America to the land of economic utopia.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Huh...a 60/58/59 (!?!) split among independents on who they are "angry" at.......but they don't care who is to "blame" (!?!)....they just want things to work again!

    Since you are apparently speaking for all independents, all 177% of them, is the POTUS "playing with their lives" when he wants them to have health insurance? That is, after all, what this is all about.
    Like most partisans, right and left you miss the point. I am not speaking for all independents, no one can speak for 100% of any group and independents are such a diverse group all one can do is get a feel about them, polls of course help. The thing that is happening is the reasons why, the wherefores, the blame, etc gets lost. Independents except a very few do not following the workings of Washington D.C. and the mundane workings of politics and government. What I am say, they can see the government is shut down, they heard of dire consequences of the debt ceiling not being raised. The know in their hearts and mind their government is not working the way it should. They may or may not know the reasons and may or may not know how party politics work. Most just vote for the a candidate and not a party. They see at the moment government is broke and want it fixed. It is quite simple.

    They aren't at the moment worried about the ACA, about sequester, about future debt, about what everyone on this site is so hot and bothered about. They at this moment do not care about any of this stuff, they just want government to get back to work and how that happens, what one party gives and the other party takes is irrelavent to them at this moment. Get back to work government is what they are saying, to those in washington, get off your high horse and solve this thing.

    now a month, six weeks, six months, the ACA or other political issues might become important to them, some will and some won't. But that is unimportant to them today, right now, at this moment. Getting the government back up running is. Do you understand?
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, Pero.

    Very well stated! People in this country, on both sides of the aisle, are angry and disgusted, and are openly asking "WTH is going on with the idiots in DC?," ...and I've personally heard them say it!

    Our legislators are there to govern this country, not play games of one-up-man-ship with each other! We've got serious problems to be handled, and they're playing games? Insane!
    Agreed, but that is today politics, insanity.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Originally Posted by disneydude
    Oh I'm sure there were a lot of people who didn't like GWB (especially the second time around) who voted for him nevertheless because they disliked Kerry even more. You, however, are not one of those people. It is abundantly clear that you voted for him for other reasons.
    This is a great example of the dysfunction of the liberal mind. More than one post stating how sure he is that he knows why you voted that way, better than you do. Absolutely fascinating stuff! A little insight into where that big, all powerful, all controlling government mindset comes from. Of course the government knows better on how to spend your money. The reason; they just do. Obviously, no logical reason at all, just dysfunctional thinking.

    That is how the liberal mind works, they usually just can't help it, it's been ingrained into their thinking. Very few have the self-honesty and courage to admit that it is all wrong. But it does happen, and I suspect it might start happening more with the more outrageous policies they are asked to follow.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...and look were that got us.....DOH! ....oh....whoops...I forget, you still believe that GWB led America to the land of economic utopia.
    It really is a waste of time dealing with people like you who lack even the basic civics skills and are nothing more that partisan hacks. I suggest you learn how the govt. works, who holds the purse strings, and the legislative dealings then go to BLS.gov, BEA.gov, and the U.S. Treasury to verify what happened and when. You will see an entirely different story that what the left tells you but I don't expect someone from the bankrupt state of California to understand the numbers there.

    You want to continue to demonize Bush five years after leaving office, be my guest but all you do is show a bad case of BDS that needs serious treatment. All that does is divert from the mess we have in the WH today and the terrible economic results we have. You want to believe the leftwing rhetoric so badly that it destroys logic and common sense. You are getting exactly what California has and you want with Obama, massive debts, more entitlements, stagnant economic growth, and an entitlement mentality. It does appear that is exactly what you need and why you demonize Bush so much because he didn't give you that.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    This is a great example of the dysfunction of the liberal mind. More than one post stating how sure he is that he knows why you voted that way, better than you do. Absolutely fascinating stuff! A little insight into where that big, all powerful, all controlling government mindset comes from. Of course the government knows better on how to spend your money. The reason; they just do. Obviously, no logical reason at all, just dysfunctional thinking.

    That is how the liberal mind works, they usually just can't help it, it's been ingrained into their thinking. Very few have the self-honesty and courage to admit that it is all wrong. But it does happen, and I suspect it might start happening more with the more outrageous policies they are asked to follow.
    No...its more about being able to know Bull **** when you see it.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...its more about being able to know Bull **** when you see it.
    You have to be able to recognise reality without bias first before you can distinguish BS. You've successfully demonstrated here you don't possess that ability. Anthony60 nailed it.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You have to be able to recognise reality without bias first before you can distinguish BS. You've successfully demonstrated here you don't possess that ability. Anthony60 nailed it.
    LOL....you would have to be completely blind to "Conservatives" posting history to believe that he voted for GWB because he was the least horrible of a bad lot. I doubt there is anyone on this site (that is being honest) that doesn't recognize that are complete BS. Sorry....just calling it how it is.
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