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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Why do you suppose the Senate Repubs had to ask the White House yesterday for what the House Repubs were proposing??
    And that from Sen. Cornyn no less..
    House Dear Leader Paul 'TEAt' Ryan said 'nope" to the lastest 'float' by Senate Repubs.
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    Another liberal posting what he/she is told by the liberal elite for you see return on investment is a foreign term to people like you. Still trying to locate that Clinton surplus and wonder why that so called surplus didn't reduce the national debt? Hmmm, you really need to do some research as it would help your credibility.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    How about adhering to the principles of the 2011 debt ceiling deal? You continue to believe what you are told and ignore history. Why is that? You want a debt ceiling increase, then support spending cuts.
    The Democrats agreed to the spending levels demanded by the GOP. What, Fox News didn't tell you that?
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Why do you suppose the Senate Repubs had to ask the White House yesterday for what the House Repubs were proposing??
    And that from Sen. Cornyn no less..
    House Dear Leader Paul 'TEAt' Ryan said 'nope" to the lastest 'float' by Senate Repubs.
    Don't know, but what I do know is that each side has its talking points many of which you see posted here. I don't care about the talking points, I care about the end result and the lies and distortions created by the Obama Administration. The fact remains we had a 14.7 trillion dollar debt the last time a govt. shutdown was threatened and we approached the debt ceiling at that time. Promises and commitments were made to get our financial house in order. So here we are 2011 all over again but this time 16.7 trillion debt. Where does it end?

    Congress has the ability to fund the govt. piece meal and stave off default but you don't see the media reporting that.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
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    That would be the Repub bankers/Kochs trying to reel in their wayward TEAts..
    for you see return on investment is a foreign term to people like you.
    Kochs lost millions overnight Tuesday while the cost of doing business for the USA lost billions also due to Treasury bills' interest rising
    Still trying to locate that Clinton surplus and wonder why that so called surplus didn't reduce the national debt? Hmmm, you really need to do some research as it would help your credibility.
    Should I put this Clinton surplus denial with today's debt deniers, etc.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The Democrats agreed to the spending levels demanded by the GOP. What, Fox News didn't tell you that?
    No, they didn't but then again I haven't had Fox on for a long time. Spending more time here trying to educate people like you but it is a lost cause. Apparently since the Democrats Agreed with the House bill the govt. is no longer shutdown. Must have missed that even on Fox News.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    That would be the Repub bankers/Kochs trying to reel in their wayward TEAts..Kochs lost millions overnight Tuesday while the cost of doing business for the USA lost billions also due to Treasury bills' interest risingShould I put this Clinton surplus denial with today's debt deniers, etc.
    Love the focus on the Koch brothers, whoever they are but wonder why there isn't the same focus on Think Progress, Moveon.org, big financial liberal supporters. Seems too much emphasis on others and not enough focus on individual responsibility. I don't recall the Koch Brothers influencing my vote or the actual results the Obama Admin. has generated.

    By the way wonder who is buying the most votes, the Koch Brothers or the Democrat Senate and President?
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The fact remains we had a 14.7 trillion dollar debt the last time a govt. shutdown was threatened and we approached the debt ceiling at that time.
    Being the learned Businessman you are, you know that the yearly deficit includes interest on the Total accumulated Debt..
    In the beginning, none of that interest was Obama's..
    You would probably agree that about $2 Trillion interest on previous TAD is not on Obama.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Being the learned Businessman you are, you know that the yearly deficit includes interest on the Total accumulated Debt..
    In the beginning, none of that interest was Obama's..
    You would probably agree that about $2 Trillion interest on previous TAD is not on Obama.
    Yes, I do understand that just like there was less interest on the 10.6 trillion Obama inherited than the 16.7 trillion we have today. Just like Bush before him who wasn't responsible for the 5.7 trillion debt he inherited and the interest on that debt, Obama isn't responsible for the interest on the 10.6 he inherited but is for the additional 6.4 trillion added.

    Seems that you don't understand that the 2 trillion isn't charged yearly. Approximately 250 billion is the interest on the debt, some of that is Obama's most of it is charged to all other Presidents but it is a line budget item

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Whoever they are..LOL..Think progress didn't wipe the smirk off of cantor's face, the Koch brothers letter did that on Tuesday..
    Cantor was a different guy to the press on Wednesday after the WH 'conversation', stopping the market bleeding he had started last week..
    You didn't notice the Koch influence due to Citizens United.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Love the focus on the Koch brothers, whoever they are but wonder why there isn't the same focus on Think Progress, Moveon.org, big financial liberal supporters. Seems too much emphasis on others and not enough focus on individual responsibility. I don't recall the Koch Brothers influencing my vote or the actual results the Obama Admin. has generated.

    By the way wonder who is buying the most votes, the Koch Brothers or the Democrat Senate and President?
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, I do understand that just like there was less interest on the 10.6 trillion Obama inherited than the 16.7 trillion we have today. Just like Bush before him who wasn't responsible for the 5.7 trillion debt he inherited and the interest on that debt, Obama isn't responsible for the interest on the 10.6 he inherited but is for the additional 6.4 trillion added.
    Obama's 1st interest was close to 500 billion, which than came down to 400 billion..The interest on his inherited TAD INTEREST is over 2 trillion of 'his' total accumulated debt and is not on him..The deficit Obama inherited in his 1st budget is worth another trillion at least, and then there's more to take off with the inherited structural problems of the Bush budget..At least 45 straight months of private sector job growth have helped..Imagine the Nation with a 'loyal' opposition.

    Seems that you don't understand that the 2 trillion isn't charged yearly. Approximately 250 billion is the interest on the debt, some of that is Obama's most of it is charged to all other Presidents but it is a line budget item
    Calling it a line budget item doesn't put it on Obama, and another bad blamoid.
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