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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    again what is the big deal about a two dollar increase? is it the difference between making a profit or going bankrupt?
    The big deal is businesses have to pay that increase and those costs are passed on to the consumers. If the business cannot make the money to pay those salaries they are going to move out of state. You see it is more than a $2 increase because that affects benefits as well. Anything that drives up individual business costs is going to affect business growth and development. California already has among the highest taxes in the nation thus has businesses fleeing. This will accelerate this exodus.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    It's also a stronghold of "grassroots conservatism." Elsewhere in the country, GOP moderates (1) are losing their attractiveness to independents and centrists, thus setting up their Democratic opponents for electoral victories and (2) going to lose their running tickets to Tea Party candidates who can't win in swing districts with large numbers of independents and centrists, thus setting up their Democratic opponents for electoral victories. To put it another way, the GOP is in peril in those districts that are most reflective of the national demographics -- some of which exist, and some of which they currently hold.

    That is pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point, the only question remains is whether the GOP will win the war of attrition to save their House Majority. But they are going to lose seats.
    Is that what your crystal ball is telling you these days or is it coming from those voices you keep hearing? There's a lot of red state Democrats up for re-election in 2014, and there are two issues that are sticking in the crawl of the majority in these red states. That being Obamacare and gun control legislation being pushed by the left. These red state Democrats are toast. There are a total of 21 US Senate seats up for re-election in 2014 that are currently held by Democrats, with more than half of those being vulnerable. These seats were won during the 2008 election when the big O won the election promising hope and change, well according to the recent polls, only a little over a third of the people still believe in the hope and change crap. So there are no coat tails for these bozos to ride on. While the Republicans are defending 14 seats in mostly conservative states, Democrats are defending a mixture of liberal, moderate, and conservative seats. The GOP would only need to swing 6 seats to take control of the US Senate. So maybe you should start questioning those voices you are listening to or take that crystal ball in for service.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    have you heard, California plan's on raising the minimum wage to 10 dollars an hour.
    I don't see California anywhere on this list but I do see the huge state of TX and a lot of Red states

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I don't see California anywhere on this list but I do see the huge state of TX and a lot of Red states

    10 States With Biggest Rate of Job Growth in 2013-Kiplinger
    CA has almost 50% more employed people (approx 14mil compared to TX 10mil)
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    CA has almost 50% more employed people (approx 14mil compared to TX 10mil)
    Nonsense figure. Per capita California has a much higher unemployment figure than Texas. CA=8.9, TX=6.4.

    Unemployment Rates for States

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Is that what your crystal ball is telling you these days or is it coming from those voices you keep hearing? There's a lot of red state Democrats up for re-election in 2014, and there are two issues that are sticking in the crawl of the majority in these red states. That being Obamacare and gun control legislation being pushed by the left. These red state Democrats are toast. There are a total of 21 US Senate seats up for re-election in 2014 that are currently held by Democrats, with more than half of those being vulnerable. These seats were won during the 2008 election when the big O won the election promising hope and change, well according to the recent polls, only a little over a third of the people still believe in the hope and change crap. So there are no coat tails for these bozos to ride on. While the Republicans are defending 14 seats in mostly conservative states, Democrats are defending a mixture of liberal, moderate, and conservative seats. The GOP would only need to swing 6 seats to take control of the US Senate. So maybe you should start questioning those voices you are listening to or take that crystal ball in for service.
    you do know this is similar to the predictions made in 2010 and 2012 about the republicans taking the senate. guess what happened?

    John Tester, democratic senator from montana, a red state dem, won reelection in 2012.

    Claire Mccaskill, democratic senator from Missouri, won relection in 2012.

    harry reid, the democratic senate majority leader and arguably the most hated senator in washington, won reelction in navada during the 2010 wave election.

    need i go on?

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Its good to see more people in the U.S. "get it" than don't.


    At least these liberal college kids are starting to 'get it'.

    And it would seem that as many states still have 0 people registered, and the government 'software' is still not working, so people realize a 'delay' would have been a good idea... perhaps more and more are realizing it was the left's refusal to go with a year delay that really 'shut down' things. While they talk of 'negotiating' and 'compromise', they do not have a history of either.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nonsense figure. Per capita California has a much higher unemployment figure than Texas. CA=8.9, TX=6.4.

    Unemployment Rates for States
    Not only that California has a labor force of 18.6 million, 16.9 million working, and 1.6 million unemployed. Of that 16.9 million working approximately 2 million are making California minimum wage which is over 10%

    Texas has a labor force of 12.8 million, 11.9 million working, and 817k unemployed. Of that 11.9 million working 500,000 make minimum wage which is less than 5%

    Brainwashed liberals simply cannot admit that their liberal leadership lies like they do.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    Not only that California has a labor force of 18.6 million, 16.9 million working, and 1.6 million unemployed. Of that 16.9 million working approximately 2 million are making California minimum wage which is over 10%

    Texas has a labor force of 12.8 million, 11.9 million working, and 817k unemployed. Of that 11.9 million working 500,000 make minimum wage which is less than 5%

    Brainwashed liberals simply cannot admit that their liberal leadership lies like they do.
    I've already posted figures from the BLS which prove that TX has a higher rate of people in the workforce making minimum wage or less

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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    In case you forgot I don't deal with people who report others with the idea of generating infractions. Nor do I let the ignorance of the left go unchallenged. In 2011 the Congress of the United States increased the debt ceiling and the liberal rhetoric then was that the raising the debt ceiling wouldn't increase the debt. Well, guess what, another lie because the debt is much higher today and going higher all because of liberals like you who buy the rhetoric and ignore the results. Yes. let's raise the debt ceiling so we give the Congress more room to spend more. Liberal logic? Bye, Boo.
    As I have never, ever reported you, I can only assume this is your effort at avoiding the point.

    Tell how the things I mentioned were unsuccessful.

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