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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    How does anyone deal with people like you who believe you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the Federal Govt. and doesn't create economic activity that promotes job growth and GDP growth. How about it, Disney, when your paycheck grows what do you do with the extra money and what effect does that have on the economy?
    I'm not greedy. I understand that the privileges and the freedoms that we have in this country are not free. I have no problem paying my fair share. I am fortunate enough to have been able to benefit from the resources that this country has offered me. I believe that it is my obligation to pay back into what has allowed me to get where I am today.

    With people like you it is always Me ME ME.....
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Didn't take long for Repubs to get the message from the Koch brothers on the debt ceiling.
    Problem is, they can't get 217 Repubs on a cloudy debt ceiling with no Dems to help.
    And they won't put up a transparent debt ceiling.
    And 18 are having their "conversation" right now.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    This just in; there is in fact something harder than a diamond. It's a tea partiers head.

    Only a tea partier could be indignant that the 2003 CBO could only estimate what the deficit would be in 2013. I guess in the TP world of make believe, you already know everything there is to know without having to do things like look it up, or think about it.
    Nothing wrong with estimates but what is wrong are people passing off estimates as what actually is happening. You see Treasury Data is like your bank account which compared to estimates is accurate. Do you not understand that?

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Nothing wrong with estimates but what is wrong are people passing off estimates as what actually is happening. You see Treasury Data is like your bank account which compared to estimates is accurate. Do you not understand that?
    Good god...

    The 2013 deficit was predicted to be 650Billion in 2003 because of the policies enacted THEN. Fast forward a decade. We find that the 2013 deficits were 750Billlion. Most people would look at that and say, hey... Maybe we should have been concerned about this in 2003.

    But not you. You want to give me a lecture on the difference between prediction and actuality. It's utterly mind boggling.

    And FYI, 2003 was 10 years before 2013.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm not greedy. I understand that the privileges and the freedoms that we have in this country are not free. I have no problem paying my fair share. I am fortunate enough to have been able to benefit from the resources that this country has offered me. I believe that it is my obligation to pay back into what has allowed me to get where I am today.

    With people like you it is always Me ME ME.....
    Only a liberal who really are the most selfish people in this country complain about what others have or what others pay in taxes. Why is it that liberals like you never complain when those evil rich people give record amounts to charities?

    You seem to be someone who wants to define fair share and that is the problem. You think it is fair for almost half the income earning families in this country to pay ZERO in net income taxes and then have politicians claiming that the half that do pay FIT aren't paying their fair share?

    When backed into a corner it is always diversion, distortion, and claims of ME ME ME. What allows people to get where they are today is initiative, drive, hard work, and dedication, lost arts in today's liberal world.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Only a liberal who really are the most selfish people in this country complain about what others have or what others pay in taxes.
    I've seen plenty of conservatives here complain about what others pay in taxes. Wasn't that what Romney's "47 percent" was about?


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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Didn't take long for Repubs to get the message from the Koch brothers on the debt ceiling.
    Problem is, they can't get 217 Repubs on a cloudy debt ceiling with no Dems to help.
    And they won't put up a transparent debt ceiling.
    And 18 are having their "conversation" right now.
    Ask "your" President what he has done to keep his commitments from the 2011 Debt ceiling debates?

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Good god...

    The 2013 deficit was predicted to be 650Billion in 2003 because of the policies enacted THEN. Fast forward a decade. We find that the 2013 deficits were 750Billlion. Most people would look at that and say, hey... Maybe we should have been concerned about this in 2003.

    But not you. You want to give me a lecture on the difference between prediction and actuality. It's utterly mind boggling.

    And FYI, 2003 was 10 years before 2013.
    But the deficit wasn't 650 billion because policies changed, predictions are great but reality are the results. Using CBO numbers as reality doesn't create a lot of credibility.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Good god...

    The 2013 deficit was predicted to be 650Billion in 2003 because of the policies enacted THEN. Fast forward a decade. We find that the 2013 deficits were 750Billlion. Most people would look at that and say, hey... Maybe we should have been concerned about this in 2003.

    But not you. You want to give me a lecture on the difference between prediction and actuality. It's utterly mind boggling.

    And FYI, 2003 was 10 years before 2013.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I've seen plenty of conservatives here complain about what others pay in taxes. Wasn't that what Romney's "47 percent" was about?
    That isn't what Romney meant and you know it but keep beating that dead horse. Doesn't really matter what Romney said today as none of what he has said is relevant to the Obama results

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