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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by conservative View Post
    well then, there you have it, the 22 million unemployed/under employed/discouraged workers, those servicing the 17 trillion debt, those growingly dependent on the growing federal govt. Will be very happy. You and your progressive friends are getting your wish with a large central govt. Where all the money is collected and distributed by a progressive bureaucrat to the causes they deem necessary. No such worries any more about personal responsibility issues and class warfare as we will have equal outcome rather than simply equal outcome. Let's hope all those progressives causes you want are fully funded by that large central govt you want. Think there are enough rich people to pay for your spending appetite?
    I'm not sure what all that has to do with the record breaking unpopularity of your party with the American electorate but ...
    Yes I do.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    I'm not sure what all that has to do with the record breaking unpopularity of your party with the American electorate but ...
    Yes I do.
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    KOCH brothers, with their letter, and other conservative business leaders will make the debt happen next week..
    Cantor will not let go till then..
    Ryan had his op ed, then was besieged by TEAtypes and recantored.
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    More evidence that our party is going to suffer for it's astonishingly poor judgement.

    Gallup: GOPís favorability sinks into Clinton impeachment territory

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I'm not sure what all that has to do with the record breaking unpopularity of your party with the American electorate but ...
    Yes I do.
    Fiscal conservatives are never popular with those on the government dole. Through decades of progressive policies the left has managed quite successfully to addict a good portion of the people with "free goodies". Not enough to make them well to do but by golly enough to keep them faithful to the Democrat party. These tactics made FDR so popular that the people voted for him three times. The most successful one was probably Johnson's Great Society where it has insured the votes of most black people for the Democrats for decades and beyond. They continue to vote more than 90% Democratic as their families disintegrate, black unemployment keeps rising and the number of unwed black mothers giving birth continues to increase (now over 70%). But after decades of these feckless programs/policies it has become very evident that poverty is perpetuated through government dependency. Even when we are spending a trillion more a year than what the government takes in, the Progressives keep throwing their constituents a new bone here and there from Obamaphones, increases in food stamps, and an array of welfare programs. And today all the benefits a single mom is entitled to is now greater in value than a couple with children both working at median income and paying taxes. That's pathetic.

    But there is one really big flaw in the Progressive's thinking. He loves to tax those who take advantage of capitalism and become successful so he can redistribute the money, but at the same time has a really bad habit of wanting to over regulate everything in the private sector to the point it stifles economic growth cutting his own throat. The Progressive tends to be an arrogant bastard. Look how he became so brazen to support the shoving through of Obamacare when the majority of the people didn't want it.

    Since FDR every stinking bureaucracy created has become an over-bloated boondoggle that look nothing like what they were sold to the American people when they were first created. Every last one of them needs serious reform or ended but you won't find a Progressive agreeing with that because in their arrogance that would mean they would have to admit failure. All these programs have become burdens on the states and at the state/city levels programs are getting cut because they can't be sustained.

    Because of this weak economy those college students that fell for all that hope and change crap have since graduated and can't find jobs. A lot of them aren't liking the change and see a dismal future ahead. The fact that recession is lingering and job growth is strangled by the rules of ObamaCare and anti capitalistic policies that have poured out on the left may be good for Democrats, since the number of those eager for benefits increases. But Detroit is the poster child that tells ALL it can't go on forever.

    So in a Progressive's arrogance or should I state ignorance, whatever, he sees Republicans being blamed for the shutdown. Oh foolish one. This isn't the 1990's. And the reason the Republicans found a backbone is because of the countless calls they have received by their constituients which include Republicans, Independents and even some Democrats to stop the feckless spending.

    If I were a Progressive, I'd be real concerned over the number of so called Reagan Democrats that are very angry with Obamacare and how it violates their religious rights. A good majority of them tend to be Catholic. Just last month nuns from the "Little Sisters of the Poor" filed a class action suit against HHS over Obamacare forcing them to directly or indirectly support the contraceptive mandate that violates their beliefs. And there are numerous other lawsuits that are similar currently working their way through the system. Yes, it will be the arrogance of the Progressive that will be his downfall.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Fiscal conservatives are never popular with those on the government dole. Through decades of progressive policies the left has managed quite successfully to addict a good portion of the people with "free goodies". Not enough to make them well to do but by golly enough to keep them faithful to the Democrat party. These tactics made FDR so popular that the people voted for him three times. The most successful one was probably Johnson's Great Society where it has insured the votes of most black people for the Democrats for decades and beyond. They continue to vote more than 90% Democratic as their families disintegrate, black unemployment keeps rising and the number of unwed black mothers giving birth continues to increase (now over 70%). But after decades of these feckless programs/policies it has become very evident that poverty is perpetuated through government dependency. Even when we are spending a trillion more a year than what the government takes in, the Progressives keep throwing their constituents a new bone here and there from Obamaphones, increases in food stamps, and an array of welfare programs. And today all the benefits a single mom is entitled to is now greater in value than a couple with children both working at median income and paying taxes. That's pathetic.

    But there is one really big flaw in the Progressive's thinking. He loves to tax those who take advantage of capitalism and become successful so he can redistribute the money, but at the same time has a really bad habit of wanting to over regulate everything in the private sector to the point it stifles economic growth cutting his own throat. The Progressive tends to be an arrogant bastard. Look how he became so brazen to support the shoving through of Obamacare when the majority of the people didn't want it.

    Since FDR every stinking bureaucracy created has become an over-bloated boondoggle that look nothing like what they were sold to the American people when they were first created. Every last one of them needs serious reform or ended but you won't find a Progressive agreeing with that because in their arrogance that would mean they would have to admit failure. All these programs have become burdens on the states and at the state/city levels programs are getting cut because they can't be sustained.

    Because of this weak economy those college students that fell for all that hope and change crap have since graduated and can't find jobs. A lot of them aren't liking the change and see a dismal future ahead. The fact that recession is lingering and job growth is strangled by the rules of ObamaCare and anti capitalistic policies that have poured out on the left may be good for Democrats, since the number of those eager for benefits increases. But Detroit is the poster child that tells ALL it can't go on forever.

    So in a Progressive's arrogance or should I state ignorance, whatever, he sees Republicans being blamed for the shutdown. Oh foolish one. This isn't the 1990's. And the reason the Republicans found a backbone is because of the countless calls they have received by their constituients which include Republicans, Independents and even some Democrats to stop the feckless spending.

    If I were a Progressive, I'd be real concerned over the number of so called Reagan Democrats that are very angry with Obamacare and how it violates their religious rights. A good majority of them tend to be Catholic. Just last month nuns from the "Little Sisters of the Poor" filed a class action suit against HHS over Obamacare forcing them to directly or indirectly support the contraceptive mandate that violates their beliefs. And there are numerous other lawsuits that are similar currently working their way through the system. Yes, it will be the arrogance of the Progressive that will be his downfall.
    More conservative blather. All the poors want your money, yadda yadda yadda.

    Find a new schtick.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    All you do is regurgitate propaganda. You have 40k+ posts of mindless parroting of the crap you've been fed. Its pretty sad really.
    Yes, I know, posting facts that are verifiable and refutes the "Progressive" rhetoric obviously confuses you and has no place in your world. I really apologize for showing your ideology for what it truly is, a failure.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I'm not sure what all that has to do with the record breaking unpopularity of your party with the American electorate but ...
    Yes I do.
    It has everything to do with it because all you and the other "Progressives" can do is divert from the Obama record which by the way has Obama at 37%. Now I understand the need to divert but I really would like someone to explain to me why Congressional approval ratings are so important. Do you really think that the 435 locally elected Representatives care about a national poll? Do you really believe that my local representative who has about a 70% approval rating is affected by low Congressional Approval ratings?

    By the way exactly what it the goal of a Progressive? I remember progressives used to call themselves liberal until liberal became a dirty word and couldn't win elections.

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    More conservative blather. All the poors want your money, yadda yadda yadda.

    Find a new schtick.
    Compared to what, liberal rhetoric about spending money in the name of compassion while never getting actual compassionate results but rather creating a dependent class

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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

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    Tax cuts are pro growth economic policy, Medicare Part D inserted competition into Medicare and was 1/2 of what Ted Kennedy proposed and both beat anything Obama has done.
    Thanks for once again demonstrating that I am correct about you. Carry on.
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    Re: Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Thanks for once again demonstrating that I am correct about you. Carry on.
    How does anyone deal with people like you who believe you keeping more of what you earn is an expense to the Federal Govt. and doesn't create economic activity that promotes job growth and GDP growth. How about it, Disney, when your paycheck grows what do you do with the extra money and what effect does that have on the economy?

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