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Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game

Nope. Texas has the highest percentatge of people living on minimum wage. Check the demographics/statistics.

Minimum Wage Workers in Texas - 2012

Texas 4.7%, California 1.4%

That statement is a lie, TX has the highest NUMBER of people making the Federal Minimum wage but not the highest percentage nor the most people making minimum wage, that would be your "wonderful" state
 
The point is deficits are created by both spending increases and revenue shortfalls. What happened is spending can be predicted but Congress is very poor at creating revenue projections. Congress gives the CBO assumptions and if those assumptions aren't right the projections are going to be wrong. What most liberals today are ignoring are the facts that approximately 22 million Americans are unemployed/under employed/discouraged and thus aren't paying much in Federal Income taxes thus with the spending increases there is going to be a huge deficit. My point remains, we had the debt ceiling debate in 2011 and commitments to cut spending were made. That didn't happen so we are having the same debate right now. What assurances do we have that an increase in the debt ceiling won't lead to greater debt?

No, that's not the point. 13% error a decade out is pretty damn good.

The problem is that "deficits didn't matter" in 2003. We knew that we would have huge deficits in 09-20 back in 03. And instead of putting the government on a responsible trajectory, we spent like drunken sailors. Now the bills are due and all of a sudden it's too much.

Some of us were against the decisions that got us into this mess. So It's kind of annoying to hear the people who screwed things up in the first place try to explain why I'm an idiot and they're super geniuses, despite getting everything wrong.
 
That statement is a lie, TX has the highest NUMBER of people making the Federal Minimum wage but not the highest percentage nor the most people making minimum wage, that would be your "wonderful" state

LOL....wrong again Con...everything from you comes with a *caveat or spin. You simply cannot deal with the facts. Texas has the worst record in the country when it comes to those struggling the most in this great country. I bet you are a proud man.
 
Bet this makes you proud too Conservative:

Texas Again Has Highest Uninsured Rate in Nation | The Texas Tribune

All those great minimum wage/no benefit jobs in Texas.

So now it is on to the highest number of uninsured in the state. How does that affect you and your state? Do you know how many Texans CHOOSE not to be insured or how many low income Texans actually failed to sign up for Medicaid? No, you cite a headline that doesn't affect you at all nor one that tells the whole story and pass it on as fact. That is the problem with arrogant liberals.
 
So now it is on to the highest number of uninsured in the state. How does that affect you and your state? Do you know how many Texans CHOOSE not to be insured or how many low income Texans actually failed to sign up for Medicaid? No, you cite a headline that doesn't affect you at all nor one that tells the whole story and pass it on as fact. That is the problem with arrogant liberals.

Just helping to put your views into perspective. Must be proud of that Great state of yours. Probably thank Rick Perry every day for his economic "genius" just like you thank your other hero for leading us to economic utopia.
 
LOL....wrong again Con...everything from you comes with a *caveat or spin. You simply cannot deal with the facts. Texas has the worst record in the country when it comes to those struggling the most in this great country. I bet you are a proud man.

You made an inaccurate statement and cannot admit it. that is your problem and the problem with most liberals. this is exactly why no one can compromise with a liberal. Prove to me that TX has a higher number of people making minimum wage and the highest percentage of workers making the minimum wage or simply run like you normally do showing immaturity in refusing to apologize for your mistake.
 
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Just helping to put your views into perspective. Must be proud of that Great state of yours. Probably thank Rick Perry every day for his economic "genius" just like you thank your other hero for leading us to economic utopia.

I do, I am thankful every day that I moved to TX in 1992 and turned down the move to California. Sorry you don't understand economic growth and job creation but that is what we have come to expect from the people of LA
 
What's a light bulb? thought liberals outlawed them

not outlawed, they were tired of people paying 50 cents for a light bulb when they could make them pay 5 dollars. Have you noticed all the light bulbs now are made in Mexico.
 
Project much? My facts come from BLS.gov, BEA.gov, and the U.S. Treasury. they also come from 35 years in the business world where I learned the definition of leadership and the responsibilities of leadership. Obama is responsible for the results generated under this leadership, he is responsible for the economic policies generated, and the tone of his Administration. It really is sad that you have such a poor understanding of leadership and the responsibilities of leadership. The pie isn't growing and that is the problem, liberals like you have destroyed incentive, destroyed personal responsibility and have created mountains of debt with your social engineering

I have absolutely zero respect for progressives who have created the problems and yes, I blame Obama for the results today, the lack of leadership but then I expected nothing less from a street thug from Chicago. Interesting how the shoe is on the other foot. GW Bush was responsible for the recession and driving the economy into the ditch and apparently is still responsible for Obama not being able to get the economy out of the ditch.

What people like you never do is accept responsibility for failure. It is always someone else's fault for your policy failures. The fact that you never address the actual data presented, the fact that I am called a liar yet no one proves that I lied about anything, the fact that we are five years into the Obama Presidency and the results today are still GW Bush's fault speaks volumes about your ideology and its failures.

Blah blah blah, your standard bs spiel you do 100 times a day. If I were a business man trying to sucker people into my proposal I would say something similar. Sounds good but is just a load of crap.
 
Gingrich: The startling CNN poll on the shutdown - CNN.com

I'm very glad the liberals around here think they are winning. Please keep pronouncing your victory. Please encourage all other liberals to dance to the closure of monuments, denial of benefits to fallen soldiers families and the dreaded "shut down" while your dictator continues to refuse to discuss the issue. I hope they can keep this "shut down" going, and I hope they refuse to raise the debt ceiling so the dictator can find 20% of govt to cut out completely when its illegal for him to over spend.

The 90s was also a time with substantially less polarized demographics. The numbers against the GOP now are smaller, but much more significant when almost every election comes down to the thinnest of margins.
 
You made an inaccurate statement and cannot admit it. that is your problem and the problem with most liberals. this is exactly why no one can compromise with a liberal. Prove to me that TX has a higher number of people making minimum wage and the highest percentage of workers making the minimum wage or simply run like you normally do showing immaturity in refusing to apologize for your mistake.

LOL....look at the link Con....from BLS....Texas has the highest percentage of people working at or below minimum wage. Its all those great low pay/no benefit jobs that you are so proud of that have brought you down to this level.
Great Job!
 
Blah blah blah, your standard bs spiel you do 100 times a day. If I were a business man trying to sucker people into my proposal I would say something similar. Sounds good but is just a load of crap.

You are so right, facts and figures play no part in economic analysis, thanks so much for pointing that out.
 
not outlawed, they were tired of people paying 50 cents for a light bulb when they could make them pay 5 dollars. Have you noticed all the light bulbs now are made in Mexico.

Yeah, too bad we don't have the technology to do that! :thumbdown:

Greetings, Pero! :2wave: Hope you're having a great day!
 
LOL....look at the link Con....from BLS....Texas has the highest percentage of people working at or below minimum wage. Its all those great low pay/no benefit jobs that you are so proud of that have brought you down to this level.
Great Job!

Look at the link, that link is for FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE, you said minimum wage and the highest percentage, Both are wrong. California has more making minimum wage and a higher percentage than TX. Great job at liberal distortion.
 
I do, I am thankful every day that I moved to TX in 1992 and turned down the move to California. Sorry you don't understand economic growth and job creation but that is what we have come to expect from the people of LA

Looks like your idea of economic growth and job creation in Texas are the same as your idea of GWB job creation and economic growth leading us to economic utopia. How does it feel to be the leader in low paying/no benefit jobs? Guess Perry is another one of your heros!
 
The 90s was also a time with substantially less polarized demographics. The numbers against the GOP now are smaller, but much more significant when almost every election comes down to the thinnest of margins.

My Representative has a 70% approval rating and will win re-election, the national polls on the House are irrelevant. Most Representatives will continue to be re-elected. How does anyone explain that with such low approval ratings?
 
Looks like your idea of economic growth and job creation in Texas are the same as your idea of GWB job creation and economic growth leading us to economic utopia. How does it feel to be the leader in low paying/no benefit jobs? Guess Perry is another one of your heros!

Aw back to the Bush economic genius claim, you were wrong about the minimum wage claim and the percentage claim so back to the same tired old lies on me claiming Bush was an economic genius. You are making a total fool of yourself.
 
Its good to see more people in the U.S. "get it" than don't. Perhaps this is an indication the tide is turning in the U.S. against conservative extremism.

Republicans Lose Ground vs. Obama in the Shutdown Blame Game - ABC News

At this point I'm pretty puzzled. You really have to question the logic behind the GOP's behavior. They're taking damage all for nothing. What could they possibly get out of this? The only positive I see so far is they have riled up their ever shrinking base of extremists, everyone else is shaking their head. Obama can't negotiate anything or else he'd be legitimizing the GOP's hostage tactics, it would be a terrible blunder.

The only possible outcome I see is for Boehner to throw in the towel and for the GOP to walk away in shame. Should be interesting to see how this plays out. I fear something nasty and unexpected is going to happen.

well just addressing the ownership issue and blame game alone, the GOP never had any ground. "THIS" shut down/issue is thiers, there was an agreed deal on the table and they pulled it in hopes of a power mover. Nobody honest and objective denies this and denies that "THIS" issues is thiers

now with that being said "government" also shares some blame both sides and the DEMS have done this same move on other things also.

SO while THIS thing is the GOPs fault, pointing that out and acting like it extends anywhere beyond this one thing or that others havent tried similar things is nonsensical.
 
not outlawed, they were tired of people paying 50 cents for a light bulb when they could make them pay 5 dollars. Have you noticed all the light bulbs now are made in Mexico.

Mercury?
 
Aw back to the Bush economic genius claim, you were wrong about the minimum wage claim and the percentage claim so back to the same tired old lies on me claiming Bush was an economic genius. You are making a total fool of yourself.

I'll let your posts speak for themselves. You resort to spin, justification and rationalization any time the facts don't support your agenda. You cannot help but try to rationalize any of your heroes failures. Sorry, but Texas record on low paying, no benefit jobs speaks for itself. Face it....Texas is a sell out and the people are paying.
 
Yeah, too bad we don't have the technology to do that! :thumbdown:

Greetings, Pero! :2wave: Hope you're having a great day!

Not bad, I got most of my Honey do's out of the way. But I am babysitting a couple of grand kids, so I will come and go depending on how much trouble I have to keep them out of.
 
My Representative has a 70% approval rating and will win re-election, the national polls on the House are irrelevant. Most Representatives will continue to be re-elected. How does anyone explain that with such low approval ratings?

You're from Texas.
 
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