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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The death benefits were most likely not a part of the bill signed in that paid normal pay to soldiers.
    I find ot hard to believe that death bennies weren't a part of spending that wasn't effected by the shutdown. If so, we have a SECDEF that's as evil and/or incompetant as the president.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I find ot hard to believe that death bennies weren't a part of spending that wasn't effected by the shutdown. If so, we have a SECDEF that's as evil and/or incompetant as the president.
    Why do you find that hard to believe? It isn't something people think about really. Both sides are being petty. They knew they had to ensure that the military was paid, but there are plenty of things that go beyond just our monthly pay and direct monthly benefits. They didn't think about those other things, only the immediate, basic pay and allowances.

    We have a Congress who is too busy fighting and being petty to notice the extra things.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Why do you find that hard to believe? It isn't something people think about really. Both sides are being petty. They knew they had to ensure that the military was paid, but there are plenty of things that go beyond just our monthly pay and direct monthly benefits. They didn't think about those other things, only the immediate, basic pay and allowances.

    We have a Congress who is too busy fighting and being petty to notice the extra things.
    How hard would it have been for the President to write a single sentence executive order to fix this if he cared about the fallen or their families.

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    How hard would it have been for the President to write a single sentence executive order to fix this if he cared about the fallen or their families.
    And again, how hard would it be for the President to write a single executive order to fund Medicaid or some other government funded program with an executive order? But how legal is that again?
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    How hard would it have been for the President to write a single sentence executive order to fix this if he cared about the fallen or their families.
    Of all the ridiculous nonsense going around, this easily tops them all.

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And again, how hard would it be for the President to write a single executive order to fund Medicaid or some other government funded program with an executive order?
    Medicaid is non-discretionary spending. Its automatic. As well as Food Stamps, Medicare and Social Security. Funny that death benefits for fallen military members don't fit that category.

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Medicaid is non-discretionary spending. Its automatic. As well as Food Stamps, Medicare and Social Security. Funny that death benefits for fallen military members don't fit that category.
    All they have to do is change the law, ALL spending except interest on the debt is discretionary. Non-discretionary is a political term used to describe the lack of will by politicians.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And again, how hard would it be for the President to write a single executive order to fund Medicaid or some other government funded program with an executive order? But how legal is that again?
    Well, since Obama rejected special funding to fix this, we know that it's more about his hatred of the country and our soldiers, than anything.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    Medicaid is non-discretionary spending. Its automatic. As well as Food Stamps, Medicare and Social Security. Funny that death benefits for fallen military members don't fit that category.
    They probably do, but Obama closed military funerals like he closed the national parks.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They probably do, but Obama closed military funerals like he closed the national parks.
    I find it interesting though that food stamps is non-discretionary and death benefits for military members isn't. The behavior of the National Park Service is nauseating. When this is done, I hope Congress puts them through the ringer. We get it, its a shutdown but adding personnel to sites otherwise unmanned to maintain closure is ridiculous. It costs more money to keep these places closed then it does to leave them open. Just stupid, I'd be damned ashamed if I worked for NPS.

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