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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I agree, the military shouldn't make things more stressful, but military life and bureaucracy is stressful, no matter who is in office or what is going on. Whether we like it or not, the military is not run efficiently and hasn't been for a long time, if it ever was. Military families should know that it doesn't run efficiently.

    But I'm also willing to bet that there would be things done by others within the military networks to help these families because there is a lot of help out there.
    Hannity et. al. raised money for these families.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have been savaging Republicans over the shutdown, but on this particular issue, I have to side with them, and place the blame on Obama where it belongs. The shutdown pretty much means that non-essential services are shut down, which leads me to ask.... What can be more essential than honoring those who served our nation by burying them with honors, and giving their families death benefits? One of the piecemeal bills Republicans put forward was to bury our soldiers properly, as well as provide the death benefits due their families. Obama is not budging on this.

    Obama, you are a freakin' douche bag.
    Obama is screwing over the American people for polutical reasons.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama is screwing over the American people for polutical reasons.
    So are the Republicans. The thing here is that Republicans don't own me, and neither do the Democrats. I think for myself, and I have eyes and ears. And, most importantly, I believe in critical thinking. So feel free to support your side, while bashing the other side, which you hate so much, but are very much like.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So are the Republicans. The thing here is that Republicans don't own me, and neither do the Democrats. I think for myself, and I have eyes and ears. And, most importantly, I believe in critical thinking. So feel free to support your side, while bashing the other side, which you hate so much, but are very much like.
    Obama os closing parks to visiters for no good reason. The Republicans aren't doing anything close to that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama os closing parks to visiters for no good reason. The Republicans aren't doing anything close to that.
    No, Republicans are picking and choosing which programs should open up, based on how good it will make them look in the polls. Meanwhile, programs that are under the radar, such as WIC, would go unfunded. That is the height of cowardice.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So are the Republicans. The thing here is that Republicans don't own me, and neither do the Democrats. I think for myself, and I have eyes and ears. And, most importantly, I believe in critical thinking. So feel free to support your side, while bashing the other side, which you hate so much, but are very much like.
    The Republicans are the only party left standing in defense of The Constitution and there's only a handful of them even doing that

    By denying Obama a blank check, they are defending The Republic

    You should be thanking them. All Republicans want is for EVERYONE to enjoy the wonderful Hope and Change Obamacare, but Da Fuhrer Barry Soetoro and his cult of Prog Obots want to keep themselves and their corporate cronies exempt however. That's not fair. You're for fairness and equality right?

    Why are you defending Obama and his thugs and criminals? When are you going to wake up? That's the real question

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The Republicans are the only party left standing in defense of The Constitution and there's only a handful of them even doing that

    By denying Obama a blank check, they are defending The Republic

    You should be thanking them. All Republicans want is for EVERYONE to enjoy the wonderful Hope and Change Obamacare, but Da Fuhrer Barry Soetoro and his cult of Prog Obots want to keep themselves and their corporate cronies exempt however. That's not fair. You're for fairness and equality right?

    Why are you defending Obama and his thugs and criminals? When are you going to wake up? That's the real question
    Since when is breaking the law, by not paying the bills, defending the Constitution? The 14th Amendment says we cannot be deadbeats.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Since when is breaking the law, by not paying the bills, defending the Constitution? The 14th Amendment says we cannot be deadbeats.
    I was wondering when the fourteenth amendment would appear in this debate.

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I was wondering when the fourteenth amendment would appear in this debate.
    i wish the 10 th amendment got as much attention


    14th--The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Since when is breaking the law, by not paying the bills, defending the Constitution? The 14th Amendment says we cannot be deadbeats.
    Republicans have offered several appropriations bills that Obama and Reid have denied that fund everything except Obamacare. The latest offer is everything Obama wants, except he has to delay the mandate for the working people of this country for 1 year, just like the corporations. Obama and Reid refuse to negotiate. All Republicans are asking for at this point, is for private citizens to get the same delay as Obama gave himself and all his corporate cronies. Surely you agree with that right? And if you do, then you need to be asking your Messiah why he still won't negotiate. Why he is blocking WW2 Memorials, kicking old people out of their homes, closing grocery stores while leaving golf courses open, using capital police resources to pick up trash after illegal aliens and denying benefits to families of soldiers killed in battle. Obama is a disgrace. Anyone who doesn't see through this theatre and still supports this man has their head in the sand.

    Look at how Democrats wield Government Power. Like a club. This shutdown theatre is pure harassment and intimidation. Why any moron would want to give the same people that would wire shut a WW2 memorial complete control of your HC (YOUR LIFE) defies all logic and reason.

    Cracks are beginning to appear however. His approval rating is at 37% and even CNN is saying Obamacare needs to be delayed. It's a total disaster.

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