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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And again, how hard would it be for the President to write a single executive order to fund Medicaid or some other government funded program with an executive order? But how legal is that again?
    You're still trying this phony comparison. How disgusting and pathetic.

    Obama's job as Commander in Chief is not the same thing as your perception he is everyone's Daddy

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Of all the ridiculous nonsense going around, this easily tops them all.
    Why? He knew days in advance it was going to happen and purposely interpreted a law to allow them to go without benefits

    If Obama and Hagel had souls the situation never would have reached the point where those military families didn't receive their death benefits

    Obama also won't sign the bill that funds these families. They are still reliant upon private funding at this point

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

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    I find it interesting though that food stamps is non-discretionary and death benefits for military members isn't. The behavior of the National Park Service is nauseating. When this is done, I hope Congress puts them through the ringer. We get it, its a shutdown but adding personnel to sites otherwise unmanned to maintain closure is ridiculous. It costs more money to keep these places closed then it does to leave them open. Just stupid, I'd be damned ashamed if I worked for NPS.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    You're still trying this phony comparison. How disgusting and pathetic.

    Obama's job as Commander in Chief is not the same thing as your perception he is everyone's Daddy
    And since you don't want to answer it, you simply to insult and make random pointless comments.

    The thing is you know that the answer is that you would not support Obama signing an executive order that paid for something he supported and you didn't, but complain when he doesn't sign one that you want, no matter on his personal feelings about whether either should be done.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And since you don't want to answer it, you simply to insult and make random pointless comments.

    The thing is you know that the answer is that you would not support Obama signing an executive order that paid for something he supported and you didn't, but complain when he doesn't sign one that you want, no matter on his personal feelings about whether either should be done.
    It's been answered a hundred times. You just don't like the answer.

    The President (As Commander in Chief) has certain responsibilities to honor the fallen and make sure their families are taking care of. This has nothing to do with your perception Obama is daddy and needs to give everyone food stamps and welfare

    If The President is allowing military families of KIA to go without benefits and not providing funding for them to go the funerals (especially when The Government has taken in 50+ billion in taxes since the shutdown and is running at 85% capacity) then it's deliberate, evil and purposeful.

    Why should these families go without their benefits while Obots legions of takers continue to use their Obamaphones, swipe their EBT cards and get their welfare checks?

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It's been answered a hundred times. You just don't like the answer.

    The President (As Commander in Chief) has certain responsibilities to honor the fallen and make sure their families are taking care of. This has nothing to do with your perception Obama is daddy and needs to give everyone food stamps and welfare

    If The President is allowing military families of KIA to go without benefits and not providing funding for them to go the funerals (especially when The Government has taken in 50+ billion in taxes since the shutdown and is running at 85% capacity) then it's deliberate, evil and purposeful.

    Why should these families go without their benefits while Obots legions of takers continue to use their Obamaphones, swipe their EBT cards and get their welfare checks?
    The President, along with the entire government, has responsibilities toward all citizens.

    And death benefits are not something that anyone should be relying on to come in so quickly. Most families in fact do not even know about these. The very fact that it had to be explained to many on here that there was a difference between a "death benefit" and "SGLI" proves that most here didn't even know it existed. They just found out that this was something that military family members got.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The President, along with the entire government, has responsibilities toward all citizens.

    And death benefits are not something that anyone should be relying on to come in so quickly. Most families in fact do not even know about these. The very fact that it had to be explained to many on here that there was a difference between a "death benefit" and "SGLI" proves that most here didn't even know it existed. They just found out that this was something that military family members got.
    Thanks for the irrelevant post

    Now tell everyone why Obama and Hagel allowed these families to go without their benefits on purpose. Why Obama still won't sign a bill that funds their benefits.

    Thanks

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Thanks for the irrelevant post

    Now tell everyone why Obama and Hagel allowed these families to go without their benefits on purpose. Why Obama still won't sign a bill that funds their benefits.

    Thanks
    We shouldn't fund the government one bill at a time. It would mean that one group of people have control of this country by using blackmail and emotional appeals to convince others that the other side is harming this group or that.

    But then again you are simply behind. Obama signed that bill yesterday, so maybe you should stop and check things before you run your mouth about things you don't even know.

    Obama signs bill to pay death benefits to families of fallen soldiers | Fox News
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    We shouldn't fund the government one bill at a time. It would mean that one group of people have control of this country by using blackmail and emotional appeals to convince others that the other side is harming this group or that.

    But then again you are simply behind. Obama signed that bill yesterday, so maybe you should stop and check things before you run your mouth about things you don't even know.

    Obama signs bill to pay death benefits to families of fallen soldiers | Fox News
    Oh great good to hear Obama finally signed the bill that Jay Carnival barker claimed was "unnecessary"

    Guess the optics looked bad enough for The Fuhrer to sign his name. Hilarious you're still here defending the fact he let the benefits lapse

    Appropriations is the way Government used to be funded btw. The concept of a "continuing resolution" (blank check) is only recent and clearly not an efficient and responsible way to manage the people's money.

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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Oh great good to hear Obama finally signed the bill that Jay Carnival barker claimed was "unnecessary"

    Guess the optics looked bad enough for The Fuhrer to sign his name. Hilarious you're still here defending the fact he let the benefits lapse

    Appropriations is the way Government used to be funded btw. The concept of a "continuing resolution" (blank check) is only recent and clearly not an efficient and responsible way to manage the people's money.
    It honestly wasn't "necessary". It was ensuring that people didn't look bad. If the House Republicans cared so much about it, then they should have ensured that it wasn't overlooked in the first bill that made sure the military got paid. The House has hundreds of Congressmen, vice one President. One of them should have caught it before it was passed, should we be looking to place blame as many currently are.
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    Re: Shutdown outrage: Military death benefits denied to families of fallen troops

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    It honestly wasn't "necessary". It was ensuring that people didn't look bad. If the House Republicans cared so much about it, then they should have ensured that it wasn't overlooked in the first bill that made sure the military got paid. The House has hundreds of Congressmen, vice one President. One of them should have caught it before it was passed, should we be looking to place blame as many currently are.
    You just can't help yourself

    It wasn't overlooked in the first bill. Only a dictator tyrant a%%hole would have interpreted it that way to where he didn't have to pay them

    You're a shill for that dictator tyrant a%%hole

    Nothing more needs to be said

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