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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    really?!?!!? You simply dismiss the impact of divorce on women and children!?!?!?!? what is the problem that "we" are referring to here?
    I'm not simply dismissing it. Divorce is horrible, but single parent homes out of wedlock are 1000x worse. And don't be naive, divorce affects men too. If anything I personally know more people where the wife left the guy then the other way around, that's just me.

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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    YOu made that point as an explanation why the women's life expectancy if decreasing. In context it very much sounds like you were making the point that single moms live shorter lives.



    Are you serious? There have been a whole passel of single mothers following every America war, and birth out of wedlock is as old as history. There is easily enough examples of single motherhood since WWII to do the proper statistics.
    Feel free to present verifiable evidence on both your allegations and claims. And that includes my previous posts which you apparently feel free to interpret and characterize but are fairly powerless to quote.

    And then tell us how the role of the American woman and mother has not changed drastically since the last world war that you referred to. I would love to see that information.
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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Feel free to present verifiable evidence on both your allegations and claims. And that includes my previous posts which you apparently feel free to interpret and characterize but are fairly powerless to quote.

    And then tell us how the role of the American woman and mother has not changed drastically since the last world war that you referred to. I would love to see that information.

    You have asked me to prove a negative. You are the one who made the positive claim, you are supposed to verify it. Since you refuse to we can accept that your claim is gratuitous and can be refuted with an equally gratuitous assertion... here goes: NUH UH!

    Aren't debate rules marvelous?

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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    What?.....What does that have to do with the current topic? Oh! It was a sad attempt at being inflammatory.
    I was sarcastically arguing against you.

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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You have asked me to prove a negative. You are the one who made the positive claim, you are supposed to verify it. Since you refuse to we can accept that your claim is gratuitous and can be refuted with an equally gratuitous assertion... here goes: NUH UH!

    Aren't debate rules marvelous?
    What positive claim did I make? My point was that now there are more women in the workforce working jobs and they still have their previous roles as wives and mothers as well.

    Do you dispute that reality?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_the_workforce

    http://www.economist.com/node/15174418

    http://www.thelaborsite.com/women1.cfm

    http://www.dol.gov/wb/info_about_wb/interwb.htm

    http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2002/05/art2full.pdf

    http://collegecandy.com/2010/11/03/t...e-infographic/

    http://www.onlinemba.com/online-guid...t-and-present/

    you wanted evidence. Dive in.

    and data on single parenthood and how it impacts women four times more than men

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_parent
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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I was sarcastically arguing against you.
    It was pretty weak. Usually the point of sarcasm is to reference something someone said regarding the current topic. I've said nothing regarding Christianity.
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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What positive claim did I make? My point was that now there are more women in the workforce working jobs and they still have their previous roles as wives and mothers as well.

    Do you dispute that reality?

    Women in the workforce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Women in the workforce: Female power | The Economist

    http://www.thelaborsite.com/women1.cfm

    http://www.dol.gov/wb/info_about_wb/interwb.htm

    http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2002/05/art2full.pdf

    The History of Women in the Workplace [Infographic]

    Online Guide to Women in the Workforce: Past and Present - OnlineMBA.com

    you wanted evidence. Dive in.

    and data on single parenthood and how it impacts women four times more than men

    Single parent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You aren't proving the point. Nobody is arguing that there aren't more women working. You are trying to prove that the more women working means overall work burden is higher for women and that that is contributing to declining longevity. You are only proving the point nobody disagrees with.

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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What positive claim did I make? My point was that now there are more women in the workforce working jobs and they still have their previous roles as wives and mothers as well.

    Do you dispute that reality?

    Women in the workforce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Women in the workforce: Female power | The Economist

    http://www.thelaborsite.com/women1.cfm

    http://www.dol.gov/wb/info_about_wb/interwb.htm

    http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2002/05/art2full.pdf

    The History of Women in the Workplace [Infographic]

    Online Guide to Women in the Workforce: Past and Present - OnlineMBA.com

    you wanted evidence. Dive in.

    and data on single parenthood and how it impacts women four times more than men

    Single parent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You aren't proving the point. Nobody is arguing that there aren't more women working. You are trying to prove that the more women working means overall work burden is higher for women and that that is contributing to declining longevity. You are only proving the point nobody disagrees with.

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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    You aren't proving the point. Nobody is arguing that there aren't more women working. You are trying to prove that the more women working means overall work burden is higher for women and that that is contributing to declining longevity. You are only proving the point nobody disagrees with.
    It is in the evidence you asked for. Obviously you did not even read it. So what the hell was the point in asking for it then?
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    Re: Why Are American Women Living 5 Years Less than Their Mothers?

    The study doesn't mention anything about the marital status of these women. It just says there is a correlation between where they live and their educational levels. My guess would be that these women probably suffer from poverty and therefore lack good nutrition and good choices in general.

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