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Journalists Detail Major Chilling Effect, Denounce White House War On Leaks In New Re

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I think it's funny when journalists complain about not being able to do their job, and then criticize someone else who is doing their job. I also find it strange they are upset when it's hard for them to find people who are willing to break the law and deal with the consequences of breaking the law.

To be clear, I'm not saying all the activities the United States engage in are right or morally acceptable. What I am saying is I do not feel sorry for journalists who are not finding people willing to break the law.
 
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Yeppir, Obama governs like Bush on steroids.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
I think it's funny when journalists complain about not being able to do their job, and then criticize someone else who is doing their job. I also find it strange they are upset when it's hard for them to find people who are willing to break the law and deal with the consequences of breaking the law.

To be clear, I'm not saying all the activities the United States engage in are right or morally acceptable. What I am saying is I do not feel sorry for journalists who are not finding people willing to break the law.
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They're not breaking any laws. They're worried about having their communications monitored or tapped, veiled threats from the White House, etc.
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Bush III. I've said so before. My av says it all.
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*chuckling* Wait, wait, wait...*chuckles some more* You mean this is not "the most transparent administration in history? :lamo
 
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Slyfox696 said:
I think it's funny when journalists complain about not being able to do their job, and then criticize someone else who is doing their job. I also find it strange they are upset when it's hard for them to find people who are willing to break the law and deal with the consequences of breaking the law.

To be clear, I'm not saying all the activities the United States engage in are right or morally acceptable. What I am saying is I do not feel sorry for journalists who are not finding people willing to break the law.
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I guess investigative reporting has dumbed down to waiting for leaks.
 
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j-mac said:
*chuckling* Wait, wait, wait...*chuckles some more* You mean this is not "the most transparent administration in history? :lamo
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On the transparency scale, this administration is somewhere below the Nixon years.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
I think it's funny when journalists complain about not being able to do their job, and then criticize someone else who is doing their job. I also find it strange they are upset when it's hard for them to find people who are willing to break the law and deal with the consequences of breaking the law.

To be clear, I'm not saying all the activities the United States engage in are right or morally acceptable. What I am saying is I do not feel sorry for journalists who are not finding people willing to break the law.
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Yeah. I'm actually with the Obama administration on this one. Leaking of classified information is illegal and should be prosecuted as such. Even leaking of non-classified information detracts from the ability of the Executive to exercise unity of command and govern well.
 
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Slyfox696 said:
I think it's funny when journalists complain about not being able to do their job, and then criticize someone else who is doing their job. I also find it strange they are upset when it's hard for them to find people who are willing to break the law and deal with the consequences of breaking the law.

To be clear, I'm not saying all the activities the United States engage in are right or morally acceptable. What I am saying is I do not feel sorry for journalists who are not finding people willing to break the law.
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What? The plight of the press need always be our concern and earn our sympathies! :lol:
 
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cpwill said:
Yeah. I'm actually with the Obama administration on this one. Leaking of classified information is illegal and should be prosecuted as such. Even leaking of non-classified information detracts from the ability of the Executive to exercise unity of command and govern well.
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Which is okay up to a point. The executive branch, especially military and law enforcement have a well-known habit of overclassifying and redacting everything and there is little incentive for them to release information that the public has a right to know. Governing well does not have to be synonymous with governing in an opaque fashion.
 
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StillBallin75 said:
Which is okay up to a point. The executive branch, especially military and law enforcement have a well-known habit of overclassifying and redacting everything and there is little incentive for them to release information that the public has a right to know. Governing well does not have to be synonymous with governing in an opaque fashion.
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:shrug: everyone who works for the executive signs a legally binding non-disclosure agreement. you violate it, that should be on you.
 
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cpwill said:
:shrug: everyone who works for the executive signs a legally binding non-disclosure agreement. you violate it, that should be on you.
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I'm not saying leakers shouldn't be punished. Just because it's a matter of course doesn't mean that the government doesn't need to be more transparent. Those are two separate arguments.
 
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