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    Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    How many liberals and anti war activist will be mourning the death of Gen. Giap ?



    >" Vo Nguyen Giap, the Vietnamese general who masterminded victories against France and the US, has died aged 102.

    His defeat of French forces at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 effectively ended French colonial rule in the region.

    He was North Vietnam's defence minister at the time of the Tet Offensive against American forces in 1968, often cited as a key campaign that led to the Americans' withdrawal.

    Gen Giap also published a number of works on military strategy.

    He was born into a peasant family in the central Quang Binh province of what was then French Indochina.'<

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    To think that he died so young.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    I don't think being the defence minster during the Tet Offensive is something to be proud about, it was a giant failure for the North Vietnamese. It should have rallied support in America like it did in South Vietnam.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    How many liberals and anti war activist will be mourning the death of Gen. Giap ?



    >" Vo Nguyen Giap, the Vietnamese general who masterminded victories against France and the US, has died aged 102.

    His defeat of French forces at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 effectively ended French colonial rule in the region.

    He was North Vietnam's defence minister at the time of the Tet Offensive against American forces in 1968, often cited as a key campaign that led to the Americans' withdrawal.

    Gen Giap also published a number of works on military strategy.

    He was born into a peasant family in the central Quang Binh province of what was then French Indochina.'<

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    Liberals who fought in Vietnam might well mark the death of a warrior opponent without mourning him. Can you deny he was a patriotic hero?
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Liberals who fought in Vietnam might well mark the death of a warrior opponent without mourning him. Can you deny he was a patriotic hero?
    He ordered the systematic murders of South Vietnamese teachers, community leaders and intellectuals. He allowed American POW's to be tortured and murdered, if not directly ordered it to be done. He was a mudering, Communist piece of ****, not a patriotic hero.
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    How many liberals and anti war activist will be mourning the death of Gen. Giap ?



    >" Vo Nguyen Giap, the Vietnamese general who masterminded victories against France and the US, has died aged 102.

    His defeat of French forces at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 effectively ended French colonial rule in the region.

    He was North Vietnam's defence minister at the time of the Tet Offensive against American forces in 1968, often cited as a key campaign that led to the Americans' withdrawal.

    Gen Giap also published a number of works on military strategy.

    He was born into a peasant family in the central Quang Binh province of what was then French Indochina.'<

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    Actually, all of us should. Keep an eye to the future, not the past. Today's reality is that the Vietnamese are warming to us. This is primarily because of the Chinese dominance in the region and the push and pull over the South China Sea. We should take advantage of every chance we have to make friends in the region, forgive past offenses, and create partnerships.

    The first US ship to pull in to Vietnam, since the war, happened a few years ago. We need to keep this trend going.

    Don't forget the Vietnamese and the Chinese also fought a war just years after we got out of there. We have common interests.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    How many liberals and anti war activist will be mourning the death of Gen. Giap ?



    >" Vo Nguyen Giap, the Vietnamese general who masterminded victories against France and the US, has died aged 102.

    His defeat of French forces at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 effectively ended French colonial rule in the region.

    He was North Vietnam's defence minister at the time of the Tet Offensive against American forces in 1968, often cited as a key campaign that led to the Americans' withdrawal.

    Gen Giap also published a number of works on military strategy.

    He was born into a peasant family in the central Quang Binh province of what was then French Indochina.'<

    Continue -> BBC News - Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    Actually, all of us should. Keep an eye to the future, not the past. Today's reality is that the Vietnamese are warming to us. This is primarily because of the Chinese dominance in the region and the push and pull over the South China Sea. We should take advantage of every chance we have to make friends in the region, forgive past offenses, and create partnerships.

    The first US ship to pull in to Vietnam, since the war, happened a few years ago. We need to keep this trend going.

    Don't forget the Vietnamese and the Chinese also fought a war just years after we got out of there. We have common interests.
    The Vietnamese and Chinese are natural born enemies with each other. Gook hates gook.

    The war clouds are already forming over the South China Sea. The objective are the oil rich Paracel and Spratly islands that Vietnam, the Philippines and China all claim.

    While our navy is being dumbed down and rusting in port unable to put to sea and fight, a naval war is brewing in the South China Sea.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He ordered the systematic murders of South Vietnamese teachers, community leaders and intellectuals. He allowed American POW's to be tortured and murdered, if not directly ordered it to be done. He was a mudering, Communist piece of ****, not a patriotic hero.
    ... the United States didn't exactly play nice in our Asian theaters of war.
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Gook hates gook.
    Keepin' it classy.
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