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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well you're not to concerned about those high brow judgments now.....are you? Myself.....I don't think they play any part of what is important.
    I just don't like liberal revisionism or the left ####### with our military culture, customs, traditions or telling soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen what words they can use.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You may not be able to answer this live.
    Why didn't we do an end-run maneuver to Haiphong, like Inchon, let alone bomb it?
    Is it as simple as the Soviets and Chinese were on the ground there?
    Weren't they flying missions out of there? I'm still learning as much as I can with my Military Cannel.
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    You wouldn't like my answer as to why we didn't do an end run. It would have to do with who was running the Big Show.



    Course you would have to show me how such a strategy would work like that with this setting.
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    My wife's Mother was secretary for the Tank Destroyer Bn. reunion beginning in the early 50's.
    My Father-in-Law was salt of the Earth, an incredible testimony to his generation.
    Those guys were awesome.
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    I doubt it, I was up in I Corps. Wasn't the 129th operating in ll Corps ?

    But the Army crew chief I was refering to was in ll Corps.
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    I've got one but it's late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    You wouldn't like my answer as to why we didn't do an end run. It would have to do with who was running the Big Show.



    Course you would have to show me how such a strategy would work like that with this setting.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    How many liberals and anti war activist will be mourning the death of Gen. Giap ?



    >" Vo Nguyen Giap, the Vietnamese general who masterminded victories against France and the US, has died aged 102.

    His defeat of French forces at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 effectively ended French colonial rule in the region.

    He was North Vietnam's defence minister at the time of the Tet Offensive against American forces in 1968, often cited as a key campaign that led to the Americans' withdrawal.

    Gen Giap also published a number of works on military strategy.

    He was born into a peasant family in the central Quang Binh province of what was then French Indochina.'<

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    No but I am still mourning 58,000 Americans who died in a pointless war for a non-existent threat. Vietnam was a war between the super powers played out in SE Asia so the Generals both could stay safe at home. The people of Vietnam and our own young men were the pawns in murderous chess game that we played until we could stomach it no more.
    On the bright side I am amazed a the resilience of the Vietnamese people and there willingness to forgive and forget the horrible injustice we and the USSR inflicted on their people. If only the people of the Mideast could bury the hatchet so easily.
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I don't think being the defence minster during the Tet Offensive is something to be proud about, it was a giant failure for the North Vietnamese. It should have rallied support in America like it did in South Vietnam.
    It won them the war.. so hardly a giant failure.
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's the question I'm asking, how do liberals feel about the death of Gen. Giap ?
    This liberal doesn't care.

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    John Kerry is a liberal, can you deny that John Kerry was a patriotic hero of Communist Vietnam ?

    Today Vietnam looks at Kerry as being a traitor to his own country even though Kerry was an ally of North Vietnam during the 70's.
    Not going there. If protest equals treason there's no direction left to turn.
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I should have put in parenthesis ( In historical Marine Corps context.) The word "gook" is a U.S. Marine slang word, believed coined during the Barbary Pirate wars and used off and on for almost two hundred years in reference to any person, place or thing that is strange or not American. During the 1970's a white beard scratching liberal who never served in the Corps would use revisionism and create a PC definition for the word and label it as a derogatory term. The libs did the same thing with the definition of what an assault rifle is.
    Incorrect as always. Used by US Soldiers in Korea after they didn't understand a word the Koreans used for American- they thought the Koreans were saying 'me-gook'. Hangook is the term for the Korean country in their language as well.

    Used in the Philippines as well. Always stood as a racial term for asians, not Berbers... The Marines stationed at manila used the word to refer to prostitutes. As far as i can tell it never was a 'neutral' word. Not used outside of the Pacific region.

    If you ever set foot in SE Asia with US personnel you should know the term, 'Luke the Gook' when referring to the VC. 'Gook' was not a complement- Sir Charles was.

    You are good at revisionist history.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Incorrect as always. Used by US Soldiers in Korea after they didn't understand a word the Koreans used for American- they thought the Koreans were saying 'me-gook'. Hangook is the term for the Korean country in their language as well.

    Used in the Philippines as well. Always stood as a racial term for asians, not Berbers... The Marines stationed at manila used the word to refer to prostitutes. As far as i can tell it never was a 'neutral' word. Not used outside of the Pacific region.

    If you ever set foot in SE Asia with US personnel you should know the term, 'Luke the Gook' when referring to the VC. 'Gook' was not a complement- Sir Charles was.

    You are good at revisionist history.
    Yeahbut APACHERAT surfs. Sir Charles don't, according to Robert Duvall.
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