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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    Liberals who fought in Vietnam might well mark the death of a warrior opponent without mourning him. Can you deny he was a patriotic hero?
    That's the question I'm asking, how do liberals feel about the death of Gen. Giap ?

    John Kerry is a liberal, can you deny that John Kerry was a patriotic hero of Communist Vietnam ?

    Today Vietnam looks at Kerry as being a traitor to his own country even though Kerry was an ally of North Vietnam during the 70's.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The Vietnamese and Chinese are natural born enemies with each other. Gook hates gook.

    The war clouds are already forming over the South China Sea. The objective are the oil rich Paracel and Spratly islands that Vietnam, the Philippines and China all claim.

    While our navy is being dumbed down and rusting in port unable to put to sea and fight, a naval war is brewing in the South China Sea.
    Not much of a war. China has nuclear weapons. Having such devices puts you into an entirely different class.
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... the United States didn't exactly play nice in our Asian theaters of war.
    what do you mean?
    the my lai massacre?
    taking two suspect VC for a ride in a USA huey with ROK soldiers on board interrogating them mid flight ... pushing one out the door to his certain death in order to prompt the other to talk
    or maybe the napalm and agent orange
    not like we need to be ashamed of such acts of inhumanity [/sarcasm]
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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    That's the question I'm asking, how do liberals feel about the death of Gen. Giap ?

    John Kerry is a liberal, can you deny that John Kerry was a patriotic hero of Communist Vietnam ?

    Today Vietnam looks at Kerry as being a traitor to his own country even though Kerry was an ally of North Vietnam during the 70's.
    I am sure the Laotians, Cambodians, and the Montanards aren't crying over spilled milk.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    ... the United States didn't exactly play nice in our Asian theaters of war.
    Did we seek out and execute school teachers and doctors, as a matter of policy?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Keepin' it classy.
    I should have put in parenthesis ( In historical Marine Corps context.)

    The word "gook" is a U.S. Marine slang word, believed coined during the Barbary Pirate wars and used off and on for almost two hundred years in reference to any person, place or thing that is strange or not American. During the 1970's a white beard scratching liberal who never served in the Corps would use revisionism and create a PC definition for the word and label it as a derogatory term.

    The libs did the same thing with the definition of what an assault rifle is.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    Not much of a war. China has nuclear weapons. Having such devices puts you into an entirely different class.
    We had nukes back during the Vietnam war and your point is ?

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what do you mean?
    the my lai massacre?
    taking two suspect VC for a ride in a USA huey with ROK soldiers on board interrogating them mid flight ... pushing one out the door to his certain death in order to prompt the other to talk
    or maybe the napalm and agent orange
    not like we need to be ashamed of such acts of inhumanity [/sarcasm]
    Was My Lai executed as a part of official policy? I can't wait for your to post the docs that prove that, which I'm sure you have close at hand.

    Throwing VC prisoners out helicopters is a fish story.

    And, so what? We used napalm. Dead is dead, it doesn't matter much what caused it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what do you mean?
    the my lai massacre?
    taking two suspect VC for a ride in a USA huey with ROK soldiers on board interrogating them mid flight ... pushing one out the door to his certain death in order to prompt the other to talk
    or maybe the napalm and agent orange
    not like we need to be ashamed of such acts of inhumanity [/sarcasm]
    You think any of that compares to what that Piece of **** did? What he did to women.....children. You think we were into direct torture to make a statement? We didn't run around lopping off little kids arms all because they got inoculated by the US or others. We didn't stake out and torture and burn village chiefs for not giving up their people to go and fight for that jerk. Then leave them there burning as an example of how civilized they were.

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    Re: Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    I read your article. Leave it to Sen. McCain to show some class, and I am being sincere.
    Here's another article. You may be comforted by the comments at the bottom.
    I hope your "feelings" toward liberals and anti war activists will simmer in your remaining time on Earth.
    My Dad was never the same after his several TDYs over there, as I remember from Mom.

    Legendary Vietnam Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap dies at 102 - Associated Press - POLITICO.com

    The article points out that Giap was out of the Country during Tet and was said to not be involved in its planning.
    Giap was also said to have been eased out after Ho Chih Minh died.
    It may not be my business, but I think you need to talk with brother Perotista a little more, even by PM. Best Wishes
    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Vietnam's General Vo Nguyen Giap dies

    How many liberals and anti war activist will be mourning the death of Gen. Giap ?



    >" Vo Nguyen Giap, the Vietnamese general who masterminded victories against France and the US, has died aged 102.

    His defeat of French forces at Dien Bien Phu in 1954 effectively ended French colonial rule in the region.

    He was North Vietnam's defence minister at the time of the Tet Offensive against American forces in 1968, often cited as a key campaign that led to the Americans' withdrawal.

    Gen Giap also published a number of works on military strategy.

    He was born into a peasant family in the central Quang Binh province of what was then French Indochina.'<

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