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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Rainman...you taking steroids? They make me pissy as hell, the same way you are acting today.
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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Do you need me to spoon-fed you?



    Now you tell me buddy boy, which part of the god damn news makes you think that any of things you said above:


    How is any of the things you said valid as observations?
    First off, the god damn news report clearly tells you, in writing:



    So it's NOT a law. Read the And it has no mention of the ears piercings for kids, now does it?

    So instead coming here with nothing of any value to contribute, much like Grant or WCH or others, why don't you make informed posts huh? Do you get a laugh out of being clueless? I mean I know reading is hard. It is. Especially when you're completely biased like a lot of people are. But I managed to learn to read and write perfectly in 2 languages by the age I was 8. It's not that hard to read a 1 page news and comment in an informed fashion, now is it?



    Alright. Don't worry buddy boy, I got yer number right here.
    My understanding is that the whole debate here is whether or not such a law should be legislated. My questions are pointed towards such a law.
    The EU resolution used a vague definition "non-medically justified operations and interventions" (ear piercing falls under such definition?) but gave only 2 clear examples for what falls under this definition, hence my questions.
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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by ido_ View Post
    My understanding is that the whole debate here is whether or not such a law should be legislated. My questions are pointed towards such a law.
    The EU resolution used a vague definition "non-medically justified operations and interventions" (ear piercing falls under such definition?) but gave only 2 clear examples for what falls under this definition, hence my questions.
    You're not even trying aren't you?

    The Council of Europe is not an EU institution. The Council of Europe != The Council of the European Union.

    really, this is the 2nd or 3rd time I am telling you this and you still haven't registered.

    Also, this law is not about ears piercing. You look at the article, no questions about ear piercing. And most people (usually girls) get their ears pierced when they're 12 or or 13 -> they can speak by that point. It's also not the same organ in question. The lobuli is not a vital organ, and also, it regenerates... well, up to a point. So you're not asking questions that make sense, you're just trying to derail the thread with senseless questions that are both off topic and irrelevant.

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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision | Reuters









    Well first off, the council of Europe doesn't make laws. this is just a resolution. It's a recommendation basically.
    I personally agree, I think the whole male circumcision thing is barbaric at best. A savage practice that we can dispense from now, in this day and age.

    I'm not against having men circumcised if they want to when they're past 18 years old and legally adults but not before they can speak and understand what is happening to them.

    The funny thing is israels' reaction the suggestion. I mean talk about overreaction. This law won't affect israel. And I know what you're thinking, it will affect jews in Europe. But jews in europe that are not israelis are not Israels' duty to represent. They have their own representatives.
    And the religious argument doesn't matter here. It doesn't matter if your religion says this is important or not, religion does not play a hand in matters of governance. You obey the laws of the land first and you observe your religious practices in religious locations.
    If you make a religion that demands that you kill someone every solstice, you will go to prison for murder. Now I'm not comparing circumcision with murder, I'm just pointing out that the law of the land is what counts and religious rituals that are against the law are religious rituals that must be abandoned. But this isn't the case yet with circumcision, as I said, this is just a resolution, not a law. The council can't make laws.


    "srael on Friday accused a leading European human rights body of fostering hatred and racism in calling for the circumcision of boys on religious grounds to be monitored more closely."

    That was a biased argument off the bat no?


    But you're not against circumcision.


    So that the **** is the point (if any at all) of this article - which is most likely propaganda.

    BTW, I'm not Jewish and I am Circumcised.

    As a matter of fact a circumcised penis carries less diseases - like HPV - potential aids - et all nasty ones.

    Since our government likes to shoot babies up with vaccines - wouldn't circumcision lead to less STD's in the US and around the world.

    Or does our government (progressives) need disease to flourish for political reasons....

    I would love hear Nancy Pelosi's take on this or maybe Ms Clinton.

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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    "srael on Friday accused a leading European human rights body of fostering hatred and racism in calling for the circumcision of boys on religious grounds to be monitored more closely."

    That was a biased argument off the bat no?


    But you're not against circumcision.


    So that the **** is the point (if any at all) of this article - which is most likely propaganda.

    BTW, I'm not Jewish and I am Circumcised.

    As a matter of fact a circumcised penis carries less diseases - like HPV - potential aids - et all nasty ones.

    Since our government likes to shoot babies up with vaccines - wouldn't circumcision lead to less STD's in the US and around the world.

    Or does our government (progressives) need disease to flourish for political reasons....

    I would love hear Nancy Pelosi's take on this or maybe Ms Clinton.
    I'm sorry, I don't follow. What is your point? And no, this is crap.

    There is no real reason to circumcize children. It's all non-sense and all done for dogmatic, religious reasons.

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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I'm sorry, I don't follow. What is your point? And no, this is crap.

    There is no real reason to circumcize children. It's all non-sense and all done for dogmatic, religious reasons.
    Medically it rids the penis of viruses and and bacterias...

    I absolutely understand the traditional values you adhere to and respect them but.

    I suppose this study was done on promiscuous men in Africa and the study of their "foreskin."

    Obviously a a child raised in a "2-parent home" (or even in the US) drops dramatically.

    The study is obviously misleading given no culture reference but- the one proven fact was that the uncircumcised penis was more subject to sexually transmitted diseases than a circumcised penis.

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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I had braces when I was a kid and they hurt a hell of a lot more than something I don't remember as a baby. Guess that barbaric practice out to be outlawed as well.
    Lol! Comparing circumcision to braces is flat out retarded. Braces are meant to straighten teeth, while the foreskin is a specialized sexual organ with many functions and causes lose of function and other side effects when removed. Oh and btw, you can't actually reconstruct it since it's unique tissue.

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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Medically it rids the penis of viruses and and bacterias...
    Lol! No, it doesn't. Removing the foreskin removes good bacteria and the self cleaning function of the foreskin, which in turn increases the amount of bad bacteria.

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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    I'm sorry, I don't follow. What is your point? And no, this is crap.

    There is no real reason to circumcize children. It's all non-sense and all done for dogmatic, religious reasons.
    Or just out of ignorance or belief in myths.

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    Re: Israel attacks Council of Europe move to restrict male circumcision

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps, but the EU is mysteriously involving themselves in this issue now. It is sort of silliness we've come to expect from these self important and overpaid bureaucrats.
    Why don't you learn up on the practice, what the foreskin actually does, and what occurs when it is removed before you go around calling government action silly.

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