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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    actually they're known for shutting down stretches of highway
    This orticular group or in general? I've never really heard of such or experienced such....but then again I'm more familiar with predominantly cruiser groups and your not really pulling any "tricks" off on a cruiser
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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This orticular group or in general?
    This group in particular. They have actually posted video in the past of them assaulting other vehicles for getting in their way and doing things like speeding down sidewalks in high foot traffic areas.

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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    which is more important: A) stopping a guy from getting beaten B) stopping a criminal organization who beats and kills people
    Stopping the guy from getting beat as that act is in progress as that beating could have also resulted in death.

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    Math says B.
    Well, I hope you never have to get your ass beat and have cops sit there join in and watch because they are "protecting" their "cover".



    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    On the street while under cover you can't be "who you want'". You have to be your cover. Or you get more people hurt. The guy made a tough decision, probably in-line with his direction.
    And that's the problem. Cops are allowed to be dirty for a cover. You are either a peace officer or you aren't. Cops have undercover informants who can live within the gray. But when that UI crosses the gray into the black they should be arrested. Whitey Bulger is a prime example of this.

    Hell, look what's happening in Sunrise, FL.
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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Stopping the guy from getting beat as that act is in progress as that beating could have also resulted in death.
    sadly not true. 1<(>1).

    Well, I hope you never have to get your ass beat and have cops sit there join in and watch because they are "protecting" their "cover".
    me too.

    And that's the problem. Cops are allowed to be dirty for a cover.
    that is correct. there are no swans in the sewer, but if you want to know what the rats are doing, that's where you have to go.
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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    The individual also took part in attacking the SUV. He is no innocent party. What happened is that he allowed himself to become part of the mob and its actions. He absolutely should be held fully accountable for his actions, as well as fired from the NYPD if convicted.

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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The individual also took part in attacking the SUV. He is no innocent party. What happened is that he allowed himself to become part of the mob and its actions. He absolutely should be held fully accountable for his actions, as well as fired from the NYPD if convicted.
    did evidence come out that he was directly involved in the attack? I know he was brought up on formal charges, but I thought they were related to the chase and wider involvement in the incident.

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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    did evidence come out that he was directly involved in the attack? I know he was brought up on formal charges, but I thought they were related to the chase and wider involvement in the incident.
    A video where he was seen attacking the back window of the SUV. Notice, I also referenced my comments with "if convicted."

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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I also referenced my comments with "if convicted."
    Huh? I was simply asking about if some new evidence came to light. Personally, just for his level of involvement, and the numerous misleading statements he made on the topic, I am unsure how any state body could still employ the guy as an officer of the law.

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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    His own wife AND a cop didn't come to his defense. He must feel like a winner! SMH!
    I think that's an unfair statement regarding his wife.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    he wasn't undercover and has been denied representation by the Union for making false statements
    Here's my impression of unions: I'm surprised they're not representing just because he's "one of them" and a dues-paying member.

    Pleasantly surprised, I should add.
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    Re: Undercover NYPD Cop Watched SUV Driver Get Beaten

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Huh? I was simply asking about if some new evidence came to light. Personally, just for his level of involvement, and the numerous misleading statements he made on the topic, I am unsure how any state body could still employ the guy as an officer of the law.
    Sorry, I misunderstood your message. I regret the error.

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