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Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

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You mean a GAIN for the trust fund and the American workers that paid into it.

And I repeat, who would you rather the Govt. borrows its money from?

It would have been cheaper to issue a one time transfer from the yearly federal spending of 60 billion, than to issue special funds. Why do you hate math? Do you eschew the sciences because they cannot be made to conform to your dogma?
 
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OK, what? Are you now trying to move the goalposts for yet again? After you've brought up how the Republicans lost the popular vote in the house you're now trying to say votes don't matter? Your arguments get weaker by the minute.

No, what we are all saying is that you don't understand how irrelevant the total vote is in the overall election numbers. Maybe you should seek some help to understand what is being posted
 
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The minority does not determine what the Govt. can and cannot do. This is basic civics class stuff.

Maybe you should learn what a representative Democracy is. Looks to me like the Republicans control the Peoples House
 
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No, what we are all saying is that you don't understand how irrelevant the total vote is in the overall election numbers. Maybe you should seek some help to understand what is being posted

Well since you're the one who mentioned that the number of votes someone receives matters perhaps you should issue a retraction or edit your post.
 
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Maybe you should learn what a representative Democracy is. Looks to me like the Republicans control the Peoples House

lol at "the people's House" but somehow it's not "the people's president" or "the people's senate". Why is that I wonder?
 
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Well since you're the one who mentioned that the number of votes someone receives matters perhaps you should issue a retraction or edit your post.

When did I say that, the issue was raised that the majority in this country voted for Democrats and as has been pointed out that is an invalid argument. You are the one trying to tie total votes counted as a indictment of a particular political ideology and that just shows how brainwashed you are
 
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lol at "the people's House" but somehow it's not "the people's president" or "the people's senate". Why is that I wonder?

How old are you?
 
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lol at "the people's House" but somehow it's not "the people's president" or "the people's senate". Why is that I wonder?

Do you really wonder? Evidently, you didn't bother looking it up before you made that remark! A little embarrassing!
 
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Do you really wonder? Evidently, you didn't bother looking it up before you made that remark! A little embarrassing!
It's an archaic usage that's being resurrected to make it seem as if the will of the American people is being enacted.
 
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It's an archaic usage that's being resurrected to make it seem as if the will of the American people is being enacted.

Archaic? Seems that far too many ignore "archaic" and believe that 435 Representatives are irrelevant and should bow to the will of the 100 plus 1 especially on a piece of legislation that was passed without one singe Republican vote. The Republicans won a landslide in 2010 and retained the House in 2012. Maybe it is time that "archaic" History be taught you people ike you
 
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Archaic? Seems that far too many ignore "archaic" and believe that 435 Representatives are irrelevant and should bow to the will of the 100 plus 1 especially on a piece of legislation that was passed without one singe Republican vote. The Republicans won a landslide in 2010 and retained the House in 2012. Maybe it is time that "archaic" History be taught you people ike you

And you continue to ignore the fact that the Dems held the Senate and Obama is still president after Romney campaigned on a promise to repeal the ACA. And you also ignore that the law has been upheld by the Supreme Court. I'm not really interested in going in circles with you. I'll just point out that The Baathist party in Iraq were also a minority party and they used terrorist tactics to maintain power and put their country in a stranglehold as well, so Republicans have an example they can relate with.
 
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And you continue to ignore the fact that the Dems held the Senate and Obama is still president after Romney campaigned on a promise to repeal the ACA. And you also ignore that the law has been upheld by the Supreme Court. I'm not really interested in going in circles with you. I'll just point out that The Baathist party in Iraq were also a minority party and they used terrorist tactics to maintain power and put their country in a stranglehold as well, so Republicans have an example they can relate with.

The law will exist after the House defunds it. Why shouldn't such a great law stand on its own? You seem to forget exactly what the SC ruled in a 5-4 decision, it was about the power to tax. The House controls all spending bills and voted to defund only Obamacare, not the govt. That is within their right and what they were sent to D.C. to do in 2010 and again in 2012.

Such passion for ACA, why? What is it about longer waits, more ER usage, and lower quality that excites you. You seem to buy the Obama rhetoric so please explain to me what Obama economic proposal or prediction has been accurate and cite your source?
 
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It's an archaic usage that's being resurrected to make it seem as if the will of the American people is being enacted.

Yeah, so is the Constitution.
 
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Yeah, so is the Constitution.

Thank goodness we do not have the original Constitution where some people were considered 3/5ths of a person and women were even considered less.
 
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Thank goodness we do not have the original Constitution where some people were considered 3/5ths of a person and women were even considered less.

I don't think you understand the 3/5ths clause
 
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Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits' - Forbes

Obama care is going to need enrollment in the tens of millions by Dec 15 or it will be a bust. more then half of those tens of millions will need to be young and healthy to keep the premiums where they are at, or the price will have to be raised even higher then they already are

Are you saying that the US Government launched a program and it didn't go perfectly? It is enough to make a truther wonder how the US Government carried out 9/11 with such unerring precision.
 
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Thank goodness we do not have the original Constitution where some people were considered 3/5ths of a person and women were even considered less.

Women were actually a whole person for purposes of counting population for representation in Congress. Slaves were 3/5ths. I think free blacks were also a whole person, but didn't necessarily have voting rights. Although I'm not clear on the law and it may have varied by state.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

Are you saying that the US Government launched a program and it didn't go perfectly? It is enough to make a truther wonder how the US Government carried out 9/11 with such unerring precision.

actually enrollment in the exchanges have been an ongoing Dilemma in Massachusetts, where they still lack the number of healthy, full paying adults to make them sustainable
 
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That's a problem, given that the government isn't allowed to force people to buy insurance beyond imposing taxes which they can't use force to collect.

States at least have the advantage of a general police power. They could actually arrest people for not buying insurance if they wanted to.
 
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What is exactly your expertise on healthcare and what the individual needs? Isn't it amazing how that one size fits all package seems to change depending on the issue? What you and others want to ignore is that you influence your healthcare by what you do to your body but I seem that freedom of choice only matters on certain issues. You see it is ok to murder an unborn baby, ok to inhale or interject drugs into your body, ok to demand that someone else pay for your personal responsibility issues but only in the liberal world.

Told you the story about offering healthcare to my 1200 employees and how 50% of them opted into the program. What should I have done to force the other 50% to opt in? You see, they know there are no consequences for being stupid in today's world because some liberal will create a program to save them from their own poor

Why does any liberal care what a hip replacement costs? Why do you really care if someone in my state is insured or not? Why don't you and others always get so uptight about issues that don't concern you and why don't you stop trying to legislate equal outcome and personal responsibility issues?.

Why does your post seem to not address mine?

The answer to these questions in your third paragraph, incidentally, is empathy. Try it some time. But before you go thinking I'm trying to pass myself off as some kind of saint, I should point out that I'm subject to the same system. If I can make it work better for you, I'm making it work better for me too.

I might need a new hip some day, dude. So yeah, the TEN THOUSAND ****ING PERCENT markup concerns me.
 
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Why does your post seem to not address mine?

The answer to these questions in your third paragraph, incidentally, is empathy. Try it some time. But before you go thinking I'm trying to pass myself off as some kind of saint, I should point out that I'm subject to the same system. If I can make it work better for you, I'm making it work better for me too.

I might need a new hip some day, dude. So yeah, the TEN THOUSAND ****ING PERCENT markup concerns me.

Maybe we can get a hip replacement together, my current insurance handles it and there is no wait time. The problem is there isn't any Federal program that provides better service and lower costs, I would have thought someone of your intelligence would know that.
 
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Thank goodness we do not have the original Constitution where some people were considered 3/5ths of a person and women were even considered less.

I guess you didn't understand that part of the Constitution. Most liberals don't get most of it anyway.
 
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I guess you didn't understand that part of the Constitution. Most liberals don't get most of it anyway.

Gee, I could have sworn ACA was contested by conservative drones all the way to the Supreme Court, where they lost. Oh I forgot, conservatives don't recognize judicial review as the way to determine constitutionality. Rather, they think Breitbart should decide. Crank constitutional theories -- conservatives are soaking in it.
 
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I wouldn't exactly call it a loss. Two major precedents were established by the ACA decision: first, the government could not regulate non-commerce, and second, the government could not force states to do things on penalty of having already appropriated money taken away.

There are other parts of the law which are being challenged in court, such as the contraception mandate and subsidies in states that did not set up exchanges.

So yeah, the law will stand, but many aspects of it were unconstitutional and more will likely be found and stripped from the law.
 
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