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Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

Re: Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

Come on man, they started with defunding, then went to delay, now remove med device tax. What the child non leader Obama offered? Nothing.

Give me $10,000. No? OK, give me $5,000. No? How about $1,000?

I'm negotiating. Why aren't you compromising on this? I started at $10,000 and now I'm only asking for $1,000 man. I'm compromising.
 
In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

Give me $10,000. No? OK, give me $5,000. No? How about $1,000?

I'm negotiating. Why aren't you compromising on this? I started at $10,000 and now I'm only asking for $1,000 man. I'm compromising.

Ok, so you and other liberal progressives want to mischaeacterize what is going on now, got it. Never expect a liberal to be honest or truthful. But, just you remember all of this, and try not to cry like a baby when we use these political tactics against you.
 
Re: Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

The method we use to repeal laws we don't like has been followed for 230 years or so, if you think we will allow a bunch of sore losers to change that you are sorely mistaken. The blame for this falls squarely on the Republicans for allowing their party to be hijacked by morons that don't care what the people want but do the bidding of the billionaire backers that put them in power. It is disgusting and it must fall. When will Boner grow a pair?

Yep. LOL. Imagine that. The House passes a bill then it goes to the Senate. That's been done for a very long time.
The Senate considers it, votes yes or no and if no, it goes to committee. That's been done for a very long time. But the Democrats this time decide to change the way the game has been played and partially shut the government down as a result.
The President has been involved in negotiating bills for a very long time. But this time the President decided to change the way the game has been played and partially shut the government down as a result.

These "morons" don't care what the people want, as evidence by poll after poll from inception until now on this issue. They are disgusting.
 
Re: Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

The PPACA is signed into law and has been upheld by the Supreme Court. In what universe is "defunding the law" "delaying the law", and "gimme something, anything" reasonable? There are plenty of problems with the law but instead of trying to repeal it 40+ TIMES the Republicans should have been pointing out and fixing it's supposed errors. They had two damn years to think of something besides "repeal the law".

And yet Immigration law is ignored and that's ok. And Democrats push for amnesty to circumvent years of breaking the law, and that's ok too. But God forbid the Republicans ask for the same.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

My dad ran his info and I ran mine..just for giggles.

If I went through the exchange I'd pay almost 2x as much as if I went through a privater insurer outside of the exchange website. For my dad, it was closer to 4x more expensive. I don't qualify for subsidies, and neither does he. What's the point of using the exchange at all if it's cheaper to go outside of it? Most of my friends have run into the same thing.
 
Re: Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

Yep. LOL. Imagine that. The House passes a bill then it goes to the Senate. That's been done for a very long time.
The Senate considers it, votes yes or no and if no, it goes to committee. That's been done for a very long time. But the Democrats this time decide to change the way the game has been played and partially shut the government down as a result.
The President has been involved in negotiating bills for a very long time. But this time the President decided to change the way the game has been played and partially shut the government down as a result.

These "morons" don't care what the people want, as evidence by poll after poll from inception until now on this issue. They are disgusting.

The government is shut down because it is disfunctional, IMO. I believe the last time a budget was passed was in the last year of Bush's term. The only budget BHO has offered since was voted down unanimously in both the House and Senate, because it spent too many new trillions of dollars and was considered a joke. This ironically is probably the last bi-partisan thing this adninistration has accomplished! :shock:
 
Re: Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

Come on man, they started with defunding, then went to delay, now remove med device tax. What the child non leader Obama offered? Nothing.

That's not offering anything, that's demanding less. What do Democrats get in this supposed compromise?
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

My dad ran his info and I ran mine..just for giggles.

If I went through the exchange I'd pay almost 2x as much as if I went through a privater insurer outside of the exchange website. For my dad, it was closer to 4x more expensive. I don't qualify for subsidies, and neither does he. What's the point of using the exchange at all if it's cheaper to go outside of it? Most of my friends have run into the same thing.

Are you sure you're comparing equivalent plans? There's a lot of stuff kicking in in 2014 like you can't have annual or lifetime limits anymore, the exchange plans have a minimum set of services they must cover, etc.

If you get an equivalent health care plan for 1/4 the price off of the exchange, by all means look into it. However, if the local car dealership is offering a new Civic for $18,000 and some other dealership is offering a new two-door coupe for $4500, I'm going to raise an eyebrow and wonder what the **** is wrong with that second car.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

Just a little FYI for the future, it is a good thing to not claim you don't care right after arguing about it. It lets me know you care. Oh, and also the bragging clues me in on that also. But if you want to pretend you do not care that you are a republican feel free.

Oh, I did not argue. I just pointed out that you were jumping to wrong conclusions.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

The precedent of a President succumbing to blackmail would be far more damaging to the strength of our Republic. The T's will be overridden by the sane eventually and the country will be stronger for it.

I really do not see the blackmail here. The President wants money and the guys that grant money said he could have it under conditions. That is not contortion. It is good practice.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

I heard they didn't anticipate a large number of enrollees in the first month or so because:

1. The insurance wouldn't take effect until Jan. 1

2. People are still learning and weighing their options

3. A lot of people wait until the last minute

Who would have expected them to wrong about something pertaining to the health care bill? They have had three YEARS to work on it, and from what we have been told they understand the American people and what we want. Guess they totally blew it on what would happen the first day, but other than that I'm sure they are spot on.

I haven't looked at the exchanges yet. I'm curious to see what we can get compared to what we have, but it's kind of a moot point considering how it will be shuffled by the time it actually works. I'm waiting on the final version so I can use it as a model for my business. I'm thinking I can send vehicle maintenance schedules to everyone in the county and then just go ahead and Bill them for the services whether they do them of not. It will be a generic service that will cover everything. So people with an automatic transmission will still pay for clutch replacement, people with a manual trans will still pay for fluid flushes. Everyone will pay for timing belt replacement whether they have one or not. There may be some who complain, but the schedule I send them will clearly state " it's for the children" so I'm sure they will comply. For those who won't I'll just steal their cars.
 
Re: Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

And yet Immigration law is ignored and that's ok. And Democrats push for amnesty to circumvent years of breaking the law, and that's ok too. But God forbid the Republicans ask for the same.

There is only one president who advocated amnesty and it was Republican president Reagan. No other president has given blanket forgiveness to illegal immigrant criminals.:roll:
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

I really do not see the blackmail here. The President wants money and the guys that grant money said he could have it under conditions. That is not contortion. It is good practice.

So you think that if the House T's don't get what they want they can just stop the money till they do? The there would be no reason to have the other branches of Govt. since they would all be forced to do whatever the House wants no matter what it is. The next time the Dems have a House majority get ready for a assault weapons ban and strict gun control measures. other wise they won't give out a dime. You see it doesn't sound so good when the shoe is on the other foot.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

So you think that if the House T's don't get what they want they can just stop the money till they do? .

Yes actually they can

Read The Constitution
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

Yes actually they can

Read The Constitution

Then they might as well ask for the resignation of the President and all Dems in Congress too while they are at it. Since it is in the Constitution that they can demand anything in order to fund the Govt.
Why don't they do that too?
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

Then they might as well ask for the resignation of the President and all Dems in Congress too while they are at it. Since it is in the Constitution that they can.
Why don't they do that too?

Look it's not my problem you're not educated on how the Separation of Powers in this country works

I suggest you read The Constitution. You might learn something

Good day to you :2wave:
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

So you think that if the House T's don't get what they want they can just stop the money till they do? The there would be no reason to have the other branches of Govt. since they would all be forced to do whatever the House wants no matter what it is. The next time the Dems have a House majority get ready for a assault weapons ban and strict gun control measures. other wise they won't give out a dime. You see it doesn't sound so good when the shoe is on the other foot.

It doesn't sound so bad either. Obamadon'tcare is the only bill that I can recall that was passed into law without a single vote from the minority party in either chamber.

And no need being silly on a gun bill. Lots of democrats support the 2nd amendment when their jobs are on the line.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

Look it's not my problem you're not educated on how the Separation of Powers in this country works

I suggest you read The Constitution. You might learn something

Good day to you :2wave:

Any laws they pass, including funding bills, have to also pass the Senate and be signed by the President. I mean, since we're reading the Constitution....
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

It doesn't sound so bad either. Obamadon'tcare is the only bill that I can recall that was passed into law without a single vote from the minority party in either chamber.

And no need being silly on a gun bill. Lots of democrats support the 2nd amendment when their jobs are on the line.

Its not "silly" it is coming after the 2014 midterms and you can thank the T's for it. No govt. funding without gun control. It is going to be all the rage.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

So you think that if the House T's don't get what they want they can just stop the money till they do?

How about telling the truth?

The House is not holding up the flow of money. It's the Senate democrats and the president. The house has passed funding bills that would keep the government running.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

Any laws they pass, including funding bills, have to also pass the Senate and be signed by the President. I mean, since we're reading the Constitution....

They've proposed several appropriation funding bills which Harry Reid (who runs The Senate) has rejected

So talk to The Democrats if you're worried about 17% of the non essentials of our bloated Government continuously operating

You should also ask Obama why he engaging in this shutdown theatre to try and make the shutdown seem a lot worse than it actually is. That includes barricading privately funded WW2 memorials and kicking Vietnam Vets off their memorials.

Why should Congress fund a bill that gives Obama such power and control over all our lives? Look at the way Obama is already ABUSING his power as President by wielding his IRS/NSA/EPA like the Gestapo. Why should give Obama more power if he's a thug? Congress is doing the right thing. Obamacare is an absolute Fascist Totalitarian disaster and it needs to be stopped.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

Its not "silly" it is coming after the 2014 midterms and you can thank the T's for it. No govt. funding without gun control. It is going to be all the rage.

More silliness on your part. The "T's" whoever that is, don't require idiots to assault the Constitution. The idiots that do that, do it regardless of whatever else is going on.
 
Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

They've proposed several appropriation funding bills which Harry Reid (who runs The Senate) has rejected

So talk to The Democrats if you're worried about 17% of the non essentials of our bloated Government continuously operating

You should also ask Obama why he engaging in this shutdown theatre to try and make the shutdown seem a lot worse than it actually is. That includes barricading privately funded WW2 memorials and kicking Vietnam Vets off their memorials.



Why should Congress fund a bill that gives Obama such power and control over all our lives? Look at the way Obama is already ABUSING his power as President by wielding his IRS/NSA/EPA like the Gestapo. Why should give Obama more power if he's a thug? Congress is doing the right thing. Obamacare is an absolute Fascist Totalitarian disaster and it needs to be stopped.

Actually Reid did not reject those bills only removed the unrelated and unprecedented demand that a duly passed law be defunded or delayed and then they passed them and sent them back for ratification by the House. The ball has been in Boners court all along and he keeps missing the basket.
The funding for AHC reform is not affected by this shutdown or the CR, by the way. That's why they made a separate demand for that.
 
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