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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    Was the Senate working within it's constitutional powers in rejecting those bills?

    You can't seriously believe the House is permitted to tack whatever laws it wants on a funding bill and it should be automatically passed. They could demand we replace the federal income tax with a national sales tax. I'd expect the Senate to vote against that as well. It's not the last person who votes who gets blamed. It's who made the unreasonable demand that couldn't get the votes.
    Obamacare is a financial disaster that will cost taxpayers trillions of dollars. This country is already 17T (and rising) in debt. Obamacare is also costing the economy jobs and turning our workforce into a part time hamburger flipper nation, while at the same time giving Government unprecedented powers over all our lives. It's a good thing we have sane and rational people still in Government that want to put a stop to this madness. Left Wing Collectivist Fascism has marched unchecked for far too long. The premise that The Left is trying to push is comical and embarrassing and not to mention, desperate.

    That's why you look like pathetic thugs blocking 90 year WW2 vets from visiting their memorials. Sadistic and petty politics. All of the "hostage taking/terrorist" rhetoric is just projection from Obama and his sycophants.

    Again The House has passed several appropriations bills to fund specific resources like Children's HC and Veteran's Benefits. This is how our Government used to work, instead of a single bill that funds everything, but Harry Reid and President Obama refuse to pass them. President Obama and I QUOTE "I refuse to negotiate" has repeatedly refused to reach across the aisle in a "bi-partisan" manner and come to a compromise. Reid and Obama have repeatedly said "our way or the highway". We don't live in a Dictatorship (yet).

    For years Democrats have preached there must be bi-partisanship. During The Bush years that's all the sheep used to ever bleet. Well it's time you authoritarian thugs come to the table and start negotiating.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I heard they didn't anticipate a large number of enrollees in the first month or so because:

    1. The insurance wouldn't take effect until Jan. 1

    2. People are still learning and weighing their options

    3. A lot of people wait until the last minute
    I think that too, one must remember that programs like this proceed from the assumption that people are incompetent to take care of themselves. The sort of people attracted to it by and large can hardly be expected to navigate something as complicated as form. This is why the position of "Navigators" had to be created. That must be a Latin term for "the incompetent and untrained leading the blind and clueless."
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Obamacare is a financial disaster that will cost taxpayers trillions of dollars. This country is already 17T (and rising) in debt. Obamacare is also costing the economy jobs and turning our workforce into a part time hamburger flipper nation, while at the same time giving Government unprecedented powers over all our lives. It's a good thing we have sane and rational people still in Government that want to put a stop to this madness. Left Wing Collectivist Fascism has marched unchecked for far too long. The premise that The Left is trying to push is comical and embarrassing and not to mention, desperate.

    That's why you look like pathetic thugs blocking 90 year WW2 vets from visiting their memorials. Sadistic and petty politics. All of the "hostage taking/terrorist" rhetoric is just projection from Obama and his sycophants.

    Again The House has passed several appropriations bills to fund specific resources like Children's HC and Veteran's Benefits. This is how our Government used to work, instead of a single bill that funds everything, but Harry Reid and President Obama refuse to pass them. President Obama and I QUOTE "I refuse to negotiate" has repeatedly refused to reach across the aisle in a "bi-partisan" manner and come to a compromise. Reid and Obama have repeatedly said "our way or the highway". We don't live in a Dictatorship (yet).

    For years Democrats have preached there must be bi-partisanship. During The Bush years that's all the sheep used to ever bleet. Well it's time you authoritarian thugs come to the table and start negotiating.
    What have the Republicans offered in this supposed negotiation?
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What have the Republicans offered in this supposed negotiation?
    Numerous appropriations bills that fund children's HC and veteran's benefits to name a few. 85% of the Government hasn't shut down. There is not danger of default. Your welfare check is still on it's way, unless Obama wants to play scare politics with that too. The Government will continue to pay the interest on it's debt, regardless what happens with the debt ceiling.

    Every single appropriation bill has been rejected by Reid and Obama who have both said "They refuse to negotiate"

    Yea I already know what your reply will be. Obot talking points.

    Why don't you ask Obama why he wired that memorial shut and blocked WW2 vets from visiting their memorial? Ask him why's he's a corrupt fascist thug, abusing his authority in a sadistic manner.

    I've been going to work. Working hard. Making money and didn't need the Government for anything. Hey what a concept!

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    I think that too, one must remember that programs like this proceed from the assumption that people are incompetent to take care of themselves. The sort of people attracted to it by and large can hardly be expected to navigate something as complicated as form. This is why the position of "Navigators" had to be created. That must be a Latin term for "the incompetent and untrained leading the blind and clueless."
    So you think people without health insurance are incompetant? Is that what you're trying to say?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Who would have expected them to wrong about something pertaining to the health care bill? They have had three YEARS to work on it, and from what we have been told they understand the American people and what we want. Guess they totally blew it on what would happen the first day, but other than that I'm sure they are spot on.

    I haven't looked at the exchanges yet. I'm curious to see what we can get compared to what we have, but it's kind of a moot point considering how it will be shuffled by the time it actually works. I'm waiting on the final version so I can use it as a model for my business. I'm thinking I can send vehicle maintenance schedules to everyone in the county and then just go ahead and Bill them for the services whether they do them of not. It will be a generic service that will cover everything. So people with an automatic transmission will still pay for clutch replacement, people with a manual trans will still pay for fluid flushes. Everyone will pay for timing belt replacement whether they have one or not. There may be some who complain, but the schedule I send them will clearly state " it's for the children" so I'm sure they will comply. For those who won't I'll just steal their cars.
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    "...Days before the open enrollment for the exchanges, four in 10 adults under 30 say they are “very likely” or “absolutely certain” to purchase medical coverage through the health insurance exchanges. Four in 10 uninsured adults, and nearly half of adults who purchase insurance on their own, say they are likely to purchase coverage via the exchanges. These figures are unchanged from the July and August tracking polls....

    Among all adults who say there is at least a “50-*‐50” chance they will participate in the health insurance exchanges, 13 percent say they will enroll on October 1 and 28 percent will enroll later in October. Half of uninsured adults or adults who purchase their own care plan on enrolling during the month of October.....

    Overall, only 4 percent of adults say they are planning on paying the penalty associated with not having minimal coverage by March 31, 2014. Fully 22 percent of uninsured Americans, however, say they are planning on paying the penalty.....

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Numerous appropriations bills that fund children's HC and veteran's benefits to name a few. 85% of the Government hasn't shut down. There is not danger of default. Your welfare check is still on it's way, unless Obama wants to play scare politics with that too. The Government will continue to pay the interest on it's debt, regardless what happens with the debt ceiling.

    Every single appropriation bill has been rejected by Reid and Obama who have both said "They refuse to negotiate"

    Yea I already know what your reply will be. Obot talking points.

    Why don't you ask Obama why he wired that memorial shut and blocked WW2 vets from visiting their memorial? Ask him why's he's a corrupt fascist thug, abusing his authority in a sadistic manner.

    I've been going to work. Working hard. Making money and didn't need the Government for anything. Hey what a concept!
    None of those bills actually solved the shutdown problem though. They're red herrings. And what does that actually give the Democrats? "We'll do what we were doing before but also some of the stuff the GOP wants" isn't giving the Democrats anything. What do the Democrats get that they didn't have before?

    Why was the memorial shut? Because it's not an essential government operation and Congress has not authorized it to be open at this time. Because the Republicans insist on unilateral legislative authority they don't actually possess.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So you think people without health insurance are incompetant? Is that what you're trying to say?
    I think he was talking about the incompetent -ists that passed this disaster knowing full well the American people didn't want it.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    I think he was talking about the incompetent -ists that passed this disaster knowing full well the American people didn't want it.
    I think he was talking about the people who would sign up on the insurance exchanges.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So you think people without health insurance are incompetant? Is that what you're trying to say?
    No. But most people who think that they have a right to seize the fruits of other people's labor to pay for their healthcare tend, in my experience, to be none too bright. This is especially true when they assume that the Productives will not seek to escape from such a system, of forgo further significant production. In the case of Obamacare, this has already begun as he exempts his wealthy cronies from key aspects of the scheme.

    By the same token, people who consider something as complicated as the delivery and advancement of medicine, and suppose that a bureaucracy heretofore almost exclusively uninvolved in that sphere and largely headed by self-interested career functionaries and politicians will deliver superior results, are sadly not really engaged thinkers, they are fantasists.

    And while not everyone who is incapable of providing basic care of themselves is incompetent, almost everyone who is incompetent is incapable of providing basic care for themselves.

    Theses are merely very basic realizations that a competent reality-based thinker of at least adolescent level thinking will arrive at with a few moments' thought.
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