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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The "Peoples' House is under Republican control, Democrats lost seats in the Senate and Obama registered millions of votes less than in 2008. The American people spoke and told the Republican House what to do and they are doing it. Now answer my question, why do you support ACA?

    You really don't understand the supreme court ruling, do you? Not surprising
    Wait a minute, now your using number of votes as an argument? Ok then...

    Democrats received 2 million more votes than Republicans during the House elections. The House Republicans should recognize the will of the people.

    And f.y.i., in case you're a little slow on the uptake, these aren't DNC talking points these are your talking points.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The interest on the re-issuance of the SS trust fund as public debt will outpace the gain of loaning it to other government agencies.
    And your point is?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Wait a minute, now your using number of votes as an argument? Ok then...

    Democrats received 2 million more votes than Republicans during the House elections. The House Republicans should recognize the will of the people.

    And f.y.i., in case you're a little slow on the uptake, these aren't DNC talking points these are your talking points.
    In regards to your "2 million more votes"....
    One variant of this argument posits that because gerrymandering is so severe, Republicans can lose the popular vote badly and still win the House. This weakens their incentive to reach out to the median voter (and to some observers, it erodes the Republicans’ democratic legitimacy). There’s no doubt that the GOP won more seats than you would expect given its share of the popular vote: Common sense would dictate that 49 percent of the two-party vote would not entitle you to 54 percent of the seats.

    But as is usually the case, common sense has its limits. First, as Theodore Arrington has observed, these vote counts are complicated by the fact that some states don’t count votes for unopposed candidates, while others, like California, employ a runoff system that frequently pitted Democrats against Democrats and Republicans against Republicans. When you account for this, the Democrats’ lead in the popular vote total shrinks.



    Read more: Gerrymandering Isn't to Blame for D.C. Impasse | RealClearPolitics

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And your point is?
    You lose money by "investing" the SS trust fund. In other words, it would have been more cost effective bury it in a coffee can under the White House lawn.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    You lose money by "investing" the SS trust fund. In other words, it would have been more cost effective bury it in a coffee can under the White House lawn.
    Cost effective for who? You think borrowing the same money from China would be better or cheaper? Why shouldn't SS make interest on that money? It comes from the hard work of the American people.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Yes they show a lower deficit but are still added to the Debt. Which is why the debt didn't go down when Clinton had his surpluses.
    T-bills are the "IOU's" you are claiming. I find it funny that someone who claims to have economic sense thinks we should have stuffed the $2.5 Trillion SS trust fund in a mattress instead of earning interest on it.
    Here is some info from SS that explains why we have "special" T-bills for Govt. trust funds of which there are many.



    Trust Fund Data
    So when you go to the grocery store do they take those T-bills? Where does the money come from to pay those T-Bills?

    Aw, now you are getting it, they showed a lower deficit but are added to the debt!! Hear that liberals who claim Clinton had a surplus? The 2.5 trillion in unfunded liabilities are stored no question about it and are coming due, now tell me where the money comes from to fund them?

    Hard for some to believe but this country is broke, doesn't have the money so it will print it or borrow it. Tell me the effects of both?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Wait a minute, now your using number of votes as an argument? Ok then...

    Democrats received 2 million more votes than Republicans during the House elections. The House Republicans should recognize the will of the people.

    And f.y.i., in case you're a little slow on the uptake, these aren't DNC talking points these are your talking points.
    Read post 363 before making claims that you cannot support or spout because that is what you were told. The will of the people is the House of Representatives. now I am waiting for you to tell me why you are for ACA?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    In regards to your "2 million more votes"....
    I'm using the numbers presented by the FEC federal elections results.

    http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2012/fed...ctions2012.pdf
    Last edited by reinoe; 10-11-13 at 05:24 PM.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Cost effective for who? You think borrowing the same money from China would be better or cheaper? Why shouldn't SS make interest on that money? It comes from the hard work of the American people.
    2T trust fund invested in special funds that pay 3% interest.
    Federal Government pays the 3% interest(60billion) plus principle for a total of 2.06T
    Federal Government doesn't have 2.06T, so issues public debt of 2.06T
    Federal Government pays the 3% interest plus principle, and issues more debt to pay off this debt.
    Rinse & Repeat.

    The Trust fund got an extra 60 billion at an initial cost of 66.18B, for a loss of 6.18 billion.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    I'm using the numbers presented by the FEC federal elections results.

    http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/fe2012/fed...ctions2012.pdf
    Do you not understand that not all votes are counted and reported? Are you really this nave?

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