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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Another slush fund? I suppose the "others" are Medicare and SS. And YES they make the people happier and more secure, is that what you hate? Happy people? No wonder your type are so rapidly becoming dinosaurs.
    Yep, you nailed it. Ever since LBJ and Congress put SS and Medicare on budget the money was used for things other than SS and Medicare. What would you call it if not a slush fund? Only in the liberal world is taking money dedicated to a long term retirement supplement and having it used for other items in the budget not a slush fund

    Now I really wonder why anyone would call you nave, gullible, and poorly informed?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you get paid to post for the Obama Administration? How is the govt. shutdown affecting you and your family? You spout the DNC talking points ignoring that the House is doing exactly what the people who sent them to D.C. told them to do. You see, like all liberals a 17 trillion debt that exceeds our yearly GDP doesn't matter at all.
    WAAHH WAAAHHH ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS USING DNC TALKING POINTS
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    What about the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency? The people want PPACA.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The ACA was never about cutting spending, it was about creating access. If you have concerns about spending then you should contact your congresscritter and have them cut spending from the three sacred cows: military, social security, and medicare.

    Two out of three of those are entitlements for senior citizens.
    You lie

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTgr3fG_tg

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4rkKzajF7Y

    Obama claiming premiums would decrease by 3000% because of Obamcare

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    Obama promising premiums will decrease by 2500$ a year

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66bgpRRSDD4

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yep, you nailed it. Ever since LBJ and Congress put SS and Medicare on budget the money was used for things other than SS and Medicare. What would you call it if not a slush fund? Only in the liberal world is taking money dedicated to a long term retirement supplement and having it used for other items in the budget not a slush fund

    Now I really wonder why anyone would call you nave, gullible, and poorly informed?
    The excess money from SS is used to purchase T bills, the safest investment on the planet. Only in your Govt hating paranoid world would T-bills be called a slush fund.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    WAAHH WAAAHHH ANYONE WHO DISAGREES WITH ME IS USING DNC TALKING POINTS
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    What about the Senate, the Supreme Court, and the Presidency? The people want PPACA.
    There has to be some reason for this loyalty to a failed ideology. What about them? Why do you want ACA? How does ACA lower costs and improve quality? Do you think or just spout talking points?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The excess money from SS is used to purchase T bills, the safest investment on the planet. Only in your Govt hating paranoid world would T-bills be called a slush fund.
    Wrong, the excess money was put on budget and used to show a lower deficit. IOU's replaced the SS money. Where do you get your information? Do you have any clue as to how TBills are funded? Damn, you people make me want to cry.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There has to be some reason for this loyalty to a failed ideology. What about them? Why do you want ACA? How does ACA lower costs and improve quality? Do you think or just spout talking points?
    Answer the question.

    The Senate, The Supreme Court, and the Presidency. If you're going to use "the will of the people" as an argument then explain how and why Democrats have maintained those sections of the government. The American people and the laws have spoken.
    Last edited by reinoe; 10-11-13 at 04:58 PM.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Answer the question.

    The Senate, The Supreme Court, and the Presidency. If you're going to use "the will of the people" as an argument then explain how and why Democrats have maintained those sections of the governmetn. The American people and the laws have spoken.
    The "Peoples' House is under Republican control, Democrats lost seats in the Senate and Obama registered millions of votes less than in 2008. The American people spoke and told the Republican House what to do and they are doing it. Now answer my question, why do you support ACA?

    You really don't understand the supreme court ruling, do you? Not surprising

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Wrong, the excess money was put on budget and used to show a lower deficit. IOU's replaced the SS money. Where do you get your information? Do you have any clue as to how TBills are funded? Damn, you people make me want to cry.
    Yes they show a lower deficit but are still added to the Debt. Which is why the debt didn't go down when Clinton had his surpluses.
    T-bills are the "IOU's" you are claiming. I find it funny that someone who claims to have economic sense thinks we should have stuffed the $2.5 Trillion SS trust fund in a mattress instead of earning interest on it.
    Here is some info from SS that explains why we have "special" T-bills for Govt. trust funds of which there are many.

    By law, income to the trust funds must be invested, on a daily basis, in securities guaranteed as to both principal and interest by the Federal government. All securities held by the trust funds are "special issues" of the United States Treasury. Such securities are available only to the trust funds.

    In the past, the trust funds have held marketable Treasury securities, which are available to the general public. Unlike marketable securities, special issues can be redeemed at any time at face value. Marketable securities are subject to the forces of the open market and may suffer a loss, or enjoy a gain, if sold before maturity. Investment in special issues gives the trust funds the same flexibility as holding cash.
    http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/fundFAQ.html#a0=1
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    T-bills are the "IOU's" you are claiming. I find it funny that someone who claims to have economic sense thinks we should have stuffed the $2 Trillion SS trust fund in a mattress instead of earning interest on it.
    Here is some info from SS that explains why we have "special" T-bills for Govt. trust funds of which there are many.



    Trust Fund Data
    The interest on the re-issuance of the SS trust fund as public debt will outpace the gain of loaning it to other government agencies.

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