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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I'm afraid its your side has characterized this fight that way. I was just using terms you can understand. The truth is we ALL win when our form of govt. withstands assaults from within.
    As far as the AHC act, If you know the future then what are you doing posting here? Go buy some lottery tickets.
    Thank you for using small words for me. Every little bit helps.

    As to the future, there are economics and political science have found a few cause-effect sequences, that societies usually follow. Such were, what I mentioned above. It had nothing to do with lottery tickets. Share and bond prices however are affected.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Another moving goalpost. Costs of the ACA had nothing to do with the shutdown and any talk about it is a blatant falsehood. Unsurprising that the some folks are parroting the same comments that are coming from right-wing media at the same time.

    Initially it was "the american people don't want it". And that proved false.
    Then it became "we've got to get something out of this, anything".
    Realizing that those comments were bat**** insane, it's now become about the budget.
    I do not think I said anywhere that the shutdown had anything more to do with Obamacare or that "the american people don't want it". All I did, was to point out that Obamacare has already and will for a certain time slow economic activity. Anyone that says otherwise does not know much economics. That does not mean that the later multipliers cannot be positive. They can and probably will. What it means is that we are close to a recession and putting the brakes on in the form of Obamacare is probably very bad for a huge number of citizens.

    If you are okay with that, fine. But please stick to the facts.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I do not think I said anywhere that the shutdown had anything more to do with Obamacare or that "the american people don't want it". All I did, was to point out that Obamacare has already and will for a certain time slow economic activity. Anyone that says otherwise does not know much economics. That does not mean that the later multipliers cannot be positive. They can and probably will. What it means is that we are close to a recession and puting the brakes on in the form of Obamacare is probably very bad for a huge number of citizens.

    If you are okay with that, fine. But please stick to the facts.
    The ACA was never about cutting spending, it was about creating access. If you have concerns about spending then you should contact your congresscritter and have them cut spending from the three sacred cows: military, social security, and medicare.

    Two out of three of those are entitlements for senior citizens.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by allpoliticsbaby View Post
    They were designed by someone even better. Private companies contracted by the government. The contractors always have one hand in our pocket,
    So does the govt.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The ACA was never about cutting spending, it was about creating access. If you have concerns about spending then you should contact your congresscritter and have them cut spending from the three sacred cows: military, social security, and medicare.

    Two out of three of those are entitlements for senior citizens.
    That is probably the major drawback. There is access to medical care in the US. The government spends more per capita for the healthcare of the poor and aged than Germany that prides itself to have one of the most social healthcare systems in the world. That leaves the earning young and middle class. They can take down insurance themselves, if they want. So don't let the propaganda blind you. The problem is that the government found itself paying the bills of persons that didn't take down insurance and were therefore hitting the public budget.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Another moving goalpost. Costs of the ACA had nothing to do with the shutdown and any talk about it is a blatant falsehood. Unsurprising that the some folks are parroting the same comments that are coming from right-wing media at the same time.

    Initially it was "the american people don't want it". And that proved false.
    Then it became "we've got to get something out of this, anything".
    Realizing that those comments were bat**** insane, it's now become about the budget.
    Do you get paid to post for the Obama Administration? How is the govt. shutdown affecting you and your family? You spout the DNC talking points ignoring that the House is doing exactly what the people who sent them to D.C. told them to do. You see, like all liberals a 17 trillion debt that exceeds our yearly GDP doesn't matter at all.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    The ACA was never about cutting spending, it was about creating access. If you have concerns about spending then you should contact your congresscritter and have them cut spending from the three sacred cows: military, social security, and medicare.

    Two out of three of those are entitlements for senior citizens.
    Do you get your talking points from Jon Stewart or the DNC?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is probably the major drawback. There is access to medical care in the US. The government spends more per capita for the healthcare of the poor and aged than Germany that prides itself to have one of the most social healthcare systems in the world. That leaves the earning young and middle class. They can take down insurance themselves, if they want. So don't let the propaganda blind you. The problem is that the government found itself paying the bills of persons that didn't take down insurance and were therefore hitting the public budget.
    what is missing here is the fact that the uninsured expenses hit the state and local communities, not the Federal Taxapayer. All ACS is another slush fund for the politicians to use to buy votes and keeping people dependent.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    what is missing here is the fact that the uninsured expenses hit the state and local communities, not the Federal Taxapayer. All ACS is another slush fund for the politicians to use to buy votes and keeping people dependent.
    Of course.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    what is missing here is the fact that the uninsured expenses hit the state and local communities, not the Federal Taxapayer. All ACS is another slush fund for the politicians to use to buy votes and keeping people dependent.
    Another slush fund? I suppose the "others" are Medicare and SS. And YES they make the people happier and more secure, is that what you hate? Happy people? No wonder your type are so rapidly becoming dinosaurs.

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