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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yes, all you say is true which you stated previously '...The end result will be a better system, one in which people start getting preventative care. It's going to make our country better...'. Note that you said 'start getting' meaning that presumably they haven't been diagnosed with the various conditions you list YET. Others you list are conditions that are already know and 'preventive care' will not address. But you failed to address the question I asked; My confusion is how someone cannot afford to set aside $8-$20/month to cover the annual expense and yet will be able to afford $?(presumably much more) per month in premiums? Wanna try again
    First, I never said they couldn't afford $20 dollars a month for "the annual expense." I said most people who don't have insurance don't want to jump through hoops to get it. I think that's mostly what it's about, because of course there are a select few people who can't afford anything. The subsidies allowed through the ACA will help low income individuals, but there will be some people who can only afford free insurance. I think states are allowed to provide free insurance to very low income earners under the ACA, so that will really be a state by state issue.

    Either way, most people who don't have insurance can afford it, they choose not to have it for some reason. And most of them go to the ER at some point. And at that point, is that $8-$20 annually? No, that's potentially $8,000 for one visit, which is half of some people's annual income. A periodic checkup can't prevent a broken bone or some horrible infection. I think you're the one who has a lot of questions you're leaving unanswered. Why are you so concerned with just the people who absolutely can't afford any health insurance and will be hit with the fine?
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Is it good for people to go bankrupt because the lost their job or had their hours cut back because the government wants productive people to pay health insurance for those to stupid, to lazy or choose a lifestyle that won't allow for success (present victims of the Obama presidency excluded)? Unfortunately, right now such a place exists on planet earth and it's called America. The good news is, one way or another it won't last forever. The bad news is, if legislation won't fix the situation economic reality will. Then everybody really gets to fend for themselves.
    Dog, don't you get it, you're already paying for those people (who I won't call stupid because some of them really have had horrible things happen to them). When they get saddled with unmanageable medical debt, we're all paying for it. SO glad you're in touch with your outrage but find a better place to put it, please.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Minnesota says you're welcome.
    The goal should be to get 1.00 back for every dollar sent to D.C. and TX gets .91 so is a net payer of taxes. Minnesota gets .64 back from every dollar sent.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Dog, don't you get it, you're already paying for those people (who I won't call stupid because some of them really have had horrible things happen to them). When they get saddled with unmanageable medical debt, we're all paying for it. SO glad you're in touch with your outrage but find a better place to put it, please.
    No, WE all aren't paying for it, only the states in which it occurred.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The goal should be to get 1.00 back for every dollar sent to D.C. and TX gets .91 so is a net payer of taxes. Minnesota gets .64 back from every dollar sent.
    Why is that the goal?
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Medicaid is an insurance program for low income individuals. it is a 50-50 state/federal program administered by the states. You don't seem to understand the concept of insurance vs. no insurance.
    I am not surprised that you have decided to continue to focus on the Medicaid information......while you ignore the portion of the facts that focus directly on countering your claim. Your claim was that federal tax dollars do not fund the uninsured costs in Tx. The fact is, as shown in the Chron article, that Federal tax dollars go to Tx to pay for both shortfalls in uninsured coverage and shortfalls in Medicaid coverage. The point still is that we all pay for the uninsured, not just directly but also indirectly.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, WE all aren't paying for it, only the states in which it occurred.
    False, as you have been shown over and over.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Dog, don't you get it, you're already paying for those people (who I won't call stupid because some of them really have had horrible things happen to them). When they get saddled with unmanageable medical debt, we're all paying for it. SO glad you're in touch with your outrage but find a better place to put it, please.
    The problem is that I do get it.

    This disaster of a law, Obamadon'tcare, is costing people their livelihoods and is preventing others from obtaining a decent life because it is a job killer. Plus, Obamadon'tcare is an unmanageable debt because the taxpayers will pay for medicaid or subsidies and still get stuck with the tab for anyone not covered. The biggest difference to the taxpayer will be the huge increase he or she is responsible for. It's a lose, lose for the taxpayer and that's before individual liberty is even considered.

    At least on this part you typed out we are in agreement, " (who I won't call stupid because some of them really have had horrible things happen to them). When they get saddled with unmanageable medical debt, we're all paying for it. SO glad you're in touch with your outrage but find a better place to put it, please. ". Yes some people get hit with bad luck and nothing is ever going to change that. The others are stupid, lazy or committed to a lifestyle that prevents success (minus those hurt by the Obama presidency).
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    No, WE all aren't paying for it, only the states in which it occurred.
    and they occur in every state. So yes, we are all paying for it.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why is that the goal?
    If you don't know the answer to that question then you are part of the problem and never will be able to implement a solution. Sending a dollar to D.C. and getting .91 back is typical liberal logic. Seems we are getting closer and closer to that liberal utopia where we have one massive central govt. that collects all the money and then distributes it as they see fit. What a wonderful world that would be, right?

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