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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The hospital would have billed them for far less than the 100k, probably more in the 30-40k range, due to the lack of insurance, and if the uninsured couldn't pay, the would most likely apply the grant money and trust funds at their disposal to cover treating the underprivileged. In the end, the hospital probably has a charity write off of a few thousand dollars.

    Last year, one of the big hospitals here in Cleveland, Ohio provided free hospital care to the tune of $143 million.
    I don't doubt it, but the reason a hospital provides $143 million of free care isn't really charity. They get people in that they have to treat that have no way to pay. The hospital could try collecting the debts, and they do sometimes. But when you have patients that realistically could never pay their bill it may make more sense for the hospital to forget about collecting it and write it off. It looks better for the hospital to give away care than to try to garnish wages from minimum wage workers or extract money from the unemployed, after all. Ultimately the costs of treatment get paid by charging higher prices to others.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    I don't doubt it, but the reason a hospital provides $143 million of free care isn't really charity. They get people in that they have to treat that have no way to pay. The hospital could try collecting the debts, and they do sometimes. But when you have patients that realistically could never pay their bill it may make more sense for the hospital to forget about collecting it and write it off. It looks better for the hospital to give away care than to try to garnish wages from minimum wage workers or extract money from the unemployed, after all. Ultimately the costs of treatment get paid by charging higher prices to others.
    Which is why healthcare is a state issue not a Federal one. If the states don't want Obamacare why should the Federal govt. force it on the rest of the citizens? You see all uninsured costs are bourn by the states not the Federal taxpayers

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Stop trying to legislate to eliminate stupidity. If you do so there will be no more liberals to brainwash.
    Yes, those who have not been buying HI have been doing so because of....stupidity.

    And this is used to back up an argument FOR irresponsibility. A real collision of memes....and you don't even see it as you post it.

    Who is "we" pay for higher prices? Do you pay for the uninsured in TX?
    We all pay for the uninsured...that was the point.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Yes, those who have not been buying HI have been doing so because of....stupidity.

    And this is used to back up an argument FOR irresponsibility. A real collision of memes....and you don't even see it as you post it.

    We all pay for the uninsured...that was the point.
    Those that have been buying healthcare insurance aren't guaranteed that they will be able to do so in the future and why should any business do that when they can put people on Obamacare? You just don't get it and never will. Private business isn't in business to provide employees healthcare benefits and they cannot be forced into offering a private plan. Obama and liberals are going to get their wish a single payer system that is going to bankrupt this country like it has every other European country. Apparently that doesn't bother people like you. Do you ever anticipate or do you only react?

    As for, "we all" that is a lie, not we all unless you live in TX and pay for the TX uninsured

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Those that have been buying healthcare insurance aren't guaranteed that they will be able to do so in the future
    Right....sure.....ok.

    As for, "we all" that is a lie, not we all unless you live in TX and pay for the TX uninsured
    "Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care and shortfalls in Medicaid payments, University of Texas officials say. That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."

    http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news...#ixzz2PzZ1IQyr
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Right....sure.....ok.

    "Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care and shortfalls in Medicaid payments, University of Texas officials say. That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."

    State takes charity care money from UTMB - Houston Chronicle
    Medicaid is a joint State and Federal govt. insurance program. Most of the increased costs in Medicare are mandated changes by the Federal Govt. stop comparing apples and oranges.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Right....sure.....ok.

    "Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care and shortfalls in Medicaid payments, University of Texas officials say. That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."

    State takes charity care money from UTMB - Houston Chronicle
    And so it begins

    Walgreen to Shift Health Plan for 160,000 Workers - WSJ.com

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    As for, "we all" that is a lie, not we all unless you live in TX and pay for the TX uninsured
    "Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care...... That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    "Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care...... That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."
    Why don't you read the entire article and get back to me? You don't know what you are talking about. Why is this of interest to you and what is your expenses for the uninsured here. Are people not getting insurance as required by Medicaid? You read the headlines and don't think because that is what you want to believe

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by con
    As for, "we all" that is a lie, not we all unless you live in TX and pay for the TX uninsured
    "Texas is diverting millions of dollars of federal money intended to reimburse three state-owned hospitals for uninsured care...... That money, which is rerouted into a general fund, otherwise would offset expenses that the University of Texas Medical Branch, M.D. Anderson and UT Tyler incur providing care for the uninsured.."

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You don't know what you are talking about.
    That's funny bagger, I just showed you as NOT knowing what YOU are talking about.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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