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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i accept this legislation as i believe it is a big step in the right direction, and i would have supported it regardless if i were a member of a union....being as you like to try and troll me on my union membership, that will be the extent of my response.... i believe ACA to be good for the country as a whole.
    If it is good for the country why is your union opting out? You don't see the hypocrisy here?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    depends on you definition of shut out i suppose....they knew it was going to become law, and really offered nothing to improve it.
    To quote Charles Krauthammer:




    The Democrats insist they welcomed contributing ideas from Republicans. Rubbish. Republicans proposed that insurance be purchasable across state lines. They got nothing. They sought serious tort reform. They got nothing. Why? Because, admitted Howard Dean, Democrats didn’t want to offend the trial lawyers.
    Moreover, the administration was clearly warned. Republican Scott Brown ran in the most inhospitable of states, Massachusetts, on the explicit promise to cast the deciding vote blocking Obamacare. It was January 2010, the height of the debate. He won. Reid ignored this unmistakable message of popular opposition and conjured a parliamentary maneuver — reconciliation — to get around Brown.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i've missed no point, everything i've said is spot on. you are 'forced' to do things by , and just for you, ALL levels of government.
    Americans have NEVER been forced to buy a product from a private corporation by the federal government until now. Some local and state governments have made certain activities contingent on purchasing certain products from private corporations. None of those activities are necessary for living.

    Oh, and the point you missed is that all this freeloading is entirely your fault. You've been trying to pass on the costs democrat vote-buying schemes to the rest of the tax payers for generations now. Don't try to blame that on conservatives.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    but they had the votes, and it is law....the repubs had plenty of chances to have input on the final product, but chose to whine and beyatch and just vote no. failure of leadership on republican part.
    They didn't have the votes until they changed the game and used reconciliation. A budget bill.

    But it is a flat out lie to say, "the repubs had plenty of chances to have input on the final product". It would even be a stretch to say, "all Dems had plenty of chances to have input on the final product". Just about all the bill was drawn up in backrooms, away from the publics eyes and ears. but it was the Dems doing the drawing up, just not the majority of them.

    It was excellent leadership from the GOP not to have anything to do with this disaster. Deliberate planning to harm Americas future and peoples ability to get quality healthcare is/was evil on the democrats part.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Americans have NEVER been forced to buy a product from a private corporation by the federal government until now. Some local and state governments have made certain activities contingent on purchasing certain products from private corporations. None of those activities are necessary for living.
    "...have made certain activities CONTINGENT....." TRANSLATION= you were forced to...and yes, many of these activities are necessary for living.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    They didn't have the votes until they changed the game and used reconciliation. A budget bill.

    But it is a flat out lie to say, "the repubs had plenty of chances to have input on the final product". It would even be a stretch to say, "all Dems had plenty of chances to have input on the final product". Just about all the bill was drawn up in backrooms, away from the publics eyes and ears. but it was the Dems doing the drawing up, just not the majority of them.

    It was excellent leadership from the GOP not to have anything to do with this disaster. Deliberate planning to harm Americas future and peoples ability to get quality healthcare is/was evil on the democrats part.
    sorry, but they did have plenty of chances.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    sorry, but they did have plenty of chances.
    Prove it! You make wild claims on what you believe but never back them up with the facts. Exactly what did the Republicans get in Obamacare? Do you realize that Obama rammed that through when he had a filibuster proof Senate thus the GOP got nothing. I find it interesting how you support something that your union opted out of. The question is why?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Prove it! You make wild claims on what you believe but never back them up with the facts. Exactly what did the Republicans get in Obamacare? Do you realize that Obama rammed that through when he had a filibuster proof Senate thus the GOP got nothing. I find it interesting how you support something that your union opted out of. The question is why?
    "You make wild claims on what you believe but never back them up "....obviously looking in the mirror again

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Prove it! You make wild claims on what you believe but never back them up with the facts. Exactly what did the Republicans get in Obamacare? Do you realize that Obama rammed that through when he had a filibuster proof Senate thus the GOP got nothing. I find it interesting how you support something that your union opted out of. The question is why?
    Nice call. I like to think he's stymied by my #202 as well, but that may just be my robust self-esteem talking.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Nice call. I like to think he's stymied by my #202 as well, but that may just be my robust self-esteem talking.
    you said it yourself, the GOP took their ball and went home. really not much more to say.

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