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Thread: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Your further prove your lack of knowledge by using "government" as a generic term in this context. We don't have just one government here in the US, we have federal, state and local governments. Each have their own powers and responsibilities, which you would know if you had read and understood the US Constitution. The federal government is empowered to require you to register with selective service, the state and local governments are not. The federal government is not empowered to require healthcare, SCOTUS let them get around this by calling it a tax (which even they don't believe it is).

    And btw, if you're assed about having auto insurance - move to New Hampshire.
    pick your poison, all levels 'force' things on you....again, thanks for proving my point

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    To randel,

    I noticed a great question that you seemingly ignored, so I'll ask it straight up....Here it is, ready?

    If the ACA is such a great thing for this country, then why are unions like yours, demanding that they be exempted from it?
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, it doesn't prove your point. Are you sure you have what it takes to understand these issues? You're not showing it here.
    but indeed it does, as you yourself admit that in the end, the pain is spread around.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    actually, you do, and i'd be curious to hear who told you otherwise.....
    No, you don't. I've built a building that didn't require a permit. I've driven vehicles that require neither insurance nor a license to operate. There are plenty of jobs out there that do not require a drug screening. You absolutely do not have to have home owner's insurance to buy a house. None of what you said was true, and none of the restrictions regarding any of those items are federal restrictions. I'm curious to hear how you came to be so misinformed.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I actually enjoy beating the hell out of you with verifiable data, logic, and common sense. It is you that don't understand state, local, and federal laws, nor can you answer why unions want an exemption from Obamacare since it is such an incredible piece of legislation? I love having you around, you make me look and sound a lot smarter than I am
    dear sir, it will be a cold day in hell before you are capable of all that....

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what strawman? is that not the truth, i go into an emergency room, rack up several hundred/thousand dollars for treatment, don't have any insurance, because i CHOSE not to carry it, not that i COULDNT IF I WANTED TO, or COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT WITH HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT, but because it was being 'forced' on me i choose not too...so...the hospital treats me, then passes those costs on to those that do have insurance. then those poor saps that have insurance through their employers, watch their cost go up, year to year for the portion they pay for their insurance.
    Did you really miss the point that badly?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    No, you don't. I've built a building that didn't require a permit. I've driven vehicles that require neither insurance nor a license to operate. There are plenty of jobs out there that do not require a drug screening. You absolutely do not have to have home owner's insurance to buy a house. None of what you said was true, and none of the restrictions regarding any of those items are federal restrictions. I'm curious to hear how you came to be so misinformed.
    really, do elaborate, because i'm not buying it...

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Did you really miss the point that badly?
    i've missed no point, everything i've said is spot on. you are 'forced' to do things by , and just for you, ALL levels of government.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    *tink* *tink* *tink*.... Um Hello?! randel? I know you saw the post....Avoiding it I see....typical.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i've missed no point, everything i've said is spot on. you are 'forced' to do things by , and just for you, ALL levels of government.
    You're "forced" to breathe too in the loose way you're using the term. Silly really. Let's try this, there are things our federal government is empowered to force you to do (force in the loose sense you're using it). There are things your state government is empowered to force you to do. The same thing extends to your local government.

    Some of those things you've listed are fictional, but of the ones that aren't, the state or local governments are the ones empowered to "force" you to do them, not the federal government. The federal government is not empowered to force you to buy healthcare. They are empowered to tax you and that is how they got this past the SCOTUS.

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