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Thread: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits'

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    This is a straw man. Why should people be able to pass their costs onto the rest of us? Oh, I remember, because some people think it's a human right to have others carry your burdens for you.
    what strawman? is that not the truth, i go into an emergency room, rack up several hundred/thousand dollars for treatment, don't have any insurance, because i CHOSE not to carry it, not that i COULDNT IF I WANTED TO, or COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT WITH HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT, but because it was being 'forced' on me i choose not too...so...the hospital treats me, then passes those costs on to those that do have insurance. then those poor saps that have insurance through their employers, watch their cost go up, year to year for the portion they pay for their insurance.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    Actually you don't have to get car insurance in order to be able to drive a car. You don't have to have home owner's insurance to buy a home. You don't have to have a building permit to put up a building. You don't have to have a driver's license to operate a motor vehicle. You don't have to take a drug screen to gain employment, and you shouldn't have to have health insurance to be alive in America.
    actually, you do, and i'd be curious to hear who told you otherwise.....

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i don't agree with you, so i don't understand anything, typical response from you, got it....hmmm...i don't have to drive? how would you expect me to be able to work and run my errands? the insurance is indeed meant to protect others , for the most part, but i still have to carry it if i want to drive or get my tags/plates. my point still stands, you have shown/posted nothing that disputes it, all you can do is tell me that i "don't seem to understand", when it is you who doesn't.
    If you don't want people to see who you are and what you don't understand, stop posting. Ask the millions and millions of Americans that don't drive a car how they get that done? Americans who don't drive aren't forced to have car insurance. I am still waiting for you to tell us why if Obamacare is so great the unions want an exemptions?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If you don't want people to see who you are and what you don't understand, stop posting. Ask the millions and millions of Americans that don't drive a car how they get that done? Americans who don't drive aren't forced to have car insurance. I am still waiting for you to tell us why if Obamacare is so great the unions want an exemptions?
    if you have nothing constructive to add, please don't respond to my posts...

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Because each state and locality decides it's own rules in that regard and if you don't favor your community's take on it you can move to another. You have more direct input into state and local law than you do federal. It's the way our country was put together. A good example would be your local fire department, In some communities that is on the individual, and others decide to do it as a community.

    As for selective service, that betrays your lack of knowledge where it comes to the system of government we have and the US Constitution. The US military is a federal responsibility. Auto insurance and healthcare, not so much.
    and how does that 'betray' a lack of knowledge? it is something the government 'forced' on me when i turned 18 so many moons ago.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what strawman? is that not the truth, i go into an emergency room, rack up several hundred/thousand dollars for treatment, don't have any insurance, because i CHOSE not to carry it, not that i COULDNT IF I WANTED TO, or COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT WITH HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT, but because it was being 'forced' on me i choose not too...so...the hospital treats me, then passes those costs on to those that do have insurance. then those poor saps that have insurance through their employers, watch their cost go up, year to year for the portion they pay for their insurance.
    Not the way it works. First you'll have to prove to the admitting desk you can and will take financial responsibility for the care you receive. If you can't do that your care with be restricted to immediate lifesaving care alone. Even then you get the bill, and the same thing happens when you don't pay as happens when you don't pay any of your bills. They put a lien on you, all your earnings, all your stuff to satisfy YOUR debt. If they can't collect it goes to a collection agency which gets to hector you and examine your stool for the next year or so. If they can't collect, the debt is written off, and that's when the pain gets spread around.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not the way it works. First you'll have to prove to the admitting desk you can and will take financial responsibility for the care you receive. If you can't do that your care with be restricted to immediate lifesaving care alone. Even then you get the bill, and the same thing happens when you don't pay as happens when you don't pay any of your bills. They put a lien on you, all your earnings, all your stuff to satisfy YOUR debt. If they can't collect it goes to a collection agency which gets to hector you and examine your stool for the next year or so. If they can't collect, the debt is written off, and that's when the pain gets spread around.
    they can put all the leins in the world on someone, but if you own nothing , or choose not to pay, and as you yourself stated, in the end, the pain gets spread around....thanks for proving my point

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    and how does that 'betray' a lack of knowledge? it is something the government 'forced' on me when i turned 18 so many moons ago.
    Your further prove your lack of knowledge by using "government" as a generic term in this context. We don't have just one government here in the US, we have federal, state and local governments. Each have their own powers and responsibilities, which you would know if you had read and understood the US Constitution. The federal government is empowered to require you to register with selective service, the state and local governments are not. The federal government is not empowered to require healthcare, SCOTUS let them get around this by calling it a tax (which even they don't believe it is).

    And btw, if you're assed about having auto insurance - move to New Hampshire.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    they can put all the leins in the world on someone, but if you own nothing , or choose not to pay, and as you yourself stated, in the end, the pain gets spread around....thanks for proving my point
    No, it doesn't prove your point. Are you sure you have what it takes to understand these issues? You're not showing it here.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    if you have nothing constructive to add, please don't respond to my posts...
    I actually enjoy beating the hell out of you with verifiable data, logic, and common sense. It is you that doesn't understand state, local, and federal laws, nor can you answer why unions want an exemption from Obamacare since it is such an incredible piece of legislation? I love having you around, you make me look and sound a lot smarter than I am

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