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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's your problem, you don't understand the difference between federal and local/state law. Start by reading the US Constitution and then move to the Federalist Papers.
    what you think i don't understand is your problem...my point still stands, you are being 'forced' to do alot of things....how about this one to, registering for selective service when you turn 18?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Doesn't change the reality you do not understand the responsibility of freedom and you actually shy away from it and seek guidance from government.
    Actually I am quite responsible. I worked all my life, and I also raised a family during that time. Not once did I ask for guidance from government, but rather relied upon the parents who raised me, who set the examples I followed. There are millions of people like me out there too, who believe in being responsible, and respectable, good citizens.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you are 'forced' to carry liability insurance if you want to have tags and be able to drive your car, your boat, your motorcycle...you are 'forced' to buy/have permits to build/renovate a house, you are 'forced' to have or to get insurance on a new home or car if purchasing one, you are 'forced' to have a driver's license to operate said motor vehicle, your are 'forced' to take a drug screen to gain employment... point being, you are 'forced' to do alot of things...why do you support the ability of people to opt out of carrying health insurance, and passing their costs onto the rest of us? you supposedly being all fiscally conservative and everything.......
    LOL, you don't have to drive and millions don't own a car. Car insurance is for the protection of others not your own. Car insurance isn't a federal mandate either, national healthcare is? By the way did you get your union exemption from Obamacare?

    You don't seem to understand the difference between federal and state laws nor the difference between a use mandate and a personal responsibility mandate.

    Ask "your" President why he has allowed supporters like unions to opt out of Obamacare? If Obamacare is so great why are exemptions even given?

    As for costs, you don't seem to understand that the people of your state pay for the uninsured in your state, not the federal taxpayers. This is just another example of the lies Obama makes to people like you who willingly accept those lies.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    I cannot make you see the truth, I can only present it to you.
    You will never make anyone see anything if you don't answer the direct questions? What exactly did Obama give Republicans?

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LOL, you don't have to drive and millions don't own a car. Car insurance is for the protection of others not your own. Car insurance isn't a federal mandate either, national healthcare is? By the way did you get your union exemption from Obamacare?

    You don't seem to understand the difference between federal and state laws nor the difference between a use mandate and a personal responsibility mandate.

    Ask "your" President why he has allowed supporters like unions to opt out of Obamacare? If Obamacare is so great why are exemptions even given?

    As for costs, you don't seem to understand that the people of your state pay for the uninsured in your state, not the federal taxpayers. This is just another example of the lies Obama makes to people like you who willingly accept those lies.
    i don't agree with you, so i don't understand anything, typical response from you, got it....hmmm...i don't have to drive? how would you expect me to be able to work and run my errands? the insurance is indeed meant to protect others , for the most part, but i still have to carry it if i want to drive or get my tags/plates. my point still stands, you have shown/posted nothing that disputes it, all you can do is tell me that i "don't seem to understand", when it is you who doesn't.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    what you think i don't understand is your problem...my point still stands, you are being 'forced' to do alot of things....how about this one to, registering for selective service when you turn 18?
    Because each state and locality decides it's own rules in that regard and if you don't favor your community's take on it you can move to another. You have more direct input into state and local law than you do federal. It's the way our country was put together. A good example would be your local fire department, In some communities that is on the individual, and others decide to do it as a community.

    As for selective service, that betrays your lack of knowledge where it comes to the system of government we have and the US Constitution. The US military is a federal responsibility. Auto insurance and healthcare, not so much.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you are 'forced' to carry liability insurance if you want to have tags and be able to drive your car, your boat, your motorcycle...you are 'forced' to buy/have permits to build/renovate a house, you are 'forced' to have or to get insurance on a new home or car if purchasing one, you are 'forced' to have a driver's license to operate said motor vehicle, your are 'forced' to take a drug screen to gain employment... point being, you are 'forced' to do alot of things...why do you support the ability of people to opt out of carrying health insurance, and passing their costs onto the rest of us? you supposedly being all fiscally conservative and everything.......
    This is a straw man. Why should people be able to pass their costs onto the rest of us? Oh, I remember, because some people think it's a human right to have others carry your burdens for you.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i don't agree with you, so i don't understand anything, typical response from you, got it....hmmm...i don't have to drive? how would you expect me to be able to work and run my errands? the insurance is indeed meant to protect others , for the most part, but i still have to carry it if i want to drive or get my tags/plates. my point still stands, you have shown/posted nothing that disputes it, all you can do is tell me that i "don't seem to understand", when it is you who doesn't.
    In this case you've demonstrated you "don't understand anything" (at least where it comes to our system and federal versus state and local law).

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    The public has already had multiple elections for president and congress with options to take out the people who would vote for this and put people clearly for removing it into office. They have not done that, so you cannot say that is what they want. Even with all the republican gerrymandering they do not have the power to do so, and next election will be another wake up call for your party. Actually it won't be the wake up call it will be a split of your party with the radical tea party base going on their own and moderates voting for dems. You are going to get hammered because of this fit. There is no vote right now. The only polls showing republicans are doing well are polling republicans. The information of the internet is out there and faux news is being drowned out by the noise of information rather than misinformation and it is just getting stronger. The only people avoiding the internet and it's messages are the old and dying people living in faux land. Their illusion is coming to an end.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i don't agree with you, so i don't understand anything, typical response from you, got it....hmmm...i don't have to drive? how would you expect me to be able to work and run my errands? the insurance is indeed meant to protect others , for the most part, but i still have to carry it if i want to drive or get my tags/plates. my point still stands, you have shown/posted nothing that disputes it, all you can do is tell me that i "don't seem to understand", when it is you who doesn't.
    Actually you don't have to get car insurance in order to be able to drive a car. You don't have to have home owner's insurance to buy a home. You don't have to have a building permit to put up a building. You don't have to have a driver's license to operate a motor vehicle. You don't have to take a drug screen to gain employment, and you shouldn't have to have health insurance to be alive in America.

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