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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    If you do not understand then you will need help in freedom. Freedom doesn't tell you how to behave. Freedom doesn't tell you what church to go to, what morals to follow, or anything like that. When you understand that your actions have consequences it is then you decide how you will contribute to society. I don't go out and not kill people because the laws says I should not. I do not need a law to tell me it is wrong to steal from people. I know those things now, and others do not so they need laws and rules and less freedom to hurt others.
    How does that apply to anything I said? I will end this now by helping you. It doesn't.
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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    No freedom is not a right. It requires you to take responsibility for your actions and to understand how you effect the world and to do so in a mindful and constructive way. That is the good part of freedom. You just want to piss all over everything you do not like, and that is fascism. freedom means saying I am going to work with my neighbors and make my community better, or I am going to go over here and do my thing in peace. Anything else is you trying to impose your opinions on others and sometimes that has to happen. Sometimes we say killing people is wrong so we will punish those who do it. Sometimes we say stealing is wrong so we will punish those who do that. But we can come together and say we can work together to advance things like education, infrastructure, medicine, food, shelter, clothing, and provide those things for everyone. That does not mean you get the best, but we can provide you with the minimals and I am sure when you see other people having fun you will wish to join in and contribute to society. That is freedom.
    Your opinion noted and you can call it what ever you want but don't ignore what is happening to it when you force people to do what they don't want to do. Healthcare is a personal responsibility issue not a Federal issue. If people don't want to purchase healthcare why should the govt. force them to do that? I employed over 1200 people, provide healthcare opportunities to them all, 50% chose to participate. Do you think the Federal Govt should force those other 50% to participate. You see, freedom seems to be whatever some people want it to be and others should be forced into doing what some people want.

    Please give an example of where this President held people responsible for their actions? Give me anywhere in history where our Founders or leaders believed it was the Government's responsibility to mandate health insurance for individuals who didn't want to participate? Our Founders understood it, today's liberals don't. Our country was built on Neighbor helping neighbor and that neighbor was never intended to be a federal bureaucrat

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted and you can call it what ever you want but don't ignore what is happening to it when you force people to do what they don't want to do. Healthcare is a personal responsibility issue not a Federal issue. If people don't want to purchase healthcare why should the govt. force them to do that? I employed over 1200 people, provide healthcare opportunities to them all, 50% chose to participate. Do you think the Federal Govt should force those other 50% to participate. You see, freedom seems to be whatever some people want it to be and others should be forced into doing what some people want.

    Please give an example of where this President held people responsible for their actions? Give me anywhere in history where our Founders or leaders believed it was the Government's responsibility to mandate health insurance for individuals who didn't want to participate? Our Founders understood it, today's liberals don't. Our country was built on Neighbor helping neighbor and that neighbor was never intended to be a federal bureaucrat
    you are 'forced' to carry liability insurance if you want to have tags and be able to drive your car, your boat, your motorcycle...you are 'forced' to buy/have permits to build/renovate a house, you are 'forced' to have or to get insurance on a new home or car if purchasing one, you are 'forced' to have a driver's license to operate said motor vehicle, your are 'forced' to take a drug screen to gain employment... point being, you are 'forced' to do alot of things...why do you support the ability of people to opt out of carrying health insurance, and passing their costs onto the rest of us? you supposedly being all fiscally conservative and everything.......

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What world do you live in? What did Obama give into the right on? You are entitled to your own opinion but you certainly aren't entitled to your own facts. This is the most devisive President I have ever seen. Did you see what he did to McCain in the Healthcare meeting? How about Paul Ryan in talking about the budget? This "Street Thug" President is a Community agitator not a leader and is destroying the economy of this country.

    You have no idea what Jesus believed because I assure you it was compassionate spending that generated positive results not just spending in the name of compassion to make people like you feel good.
    I cannot make you see the truth, I can only present it to you.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you are 'forced' to carry liability insurance if you want to have tags and be able to drive your car, your boat, your motorcycle...you are 'forced' to buy/have permits to build/renovate a house, you are 'forced' to have or to get insurance on a new home or car if purchasing one, you are 'forced' to have a driver's license to operate said motor vehicle, your are 'forced' to take a drug screen to gain employment... point being, you are 'forced' to do alot of things...why do you support the ability of people to opt out of carrying health insurance, and passing their costs onto the rest of us? you supposedly being all fiscally conservative and everything.......
    All that is state and local law, not federal.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    I have to disagree. Freedom might not be a right in many countries around the globe, but it is the one important thing our Constitution and Bill of Rights grants us here in America. That's one reason why I'm thankful I don't live in North Korea, for instance. When even China is getting on board by increasing freedoms for their people, including encouraging them to personally buy precious metals such as gold coins, that says a lot!

    Greetings, telerun.

    Doesn't change the reality you do not understand the responsibility of freedom and you actually shy away from it and seek guidance from government.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    How does that apply to anything I said? I will end this now by helping you. It doesn't.
    Ya'll make sure to come back and show me the bruise on your ass.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    All that is state and local law, not federal.
    doesnt matter, you are still 'forced' to carry or obtain insurance, or license/permits....i could add to the list of things you are forced to do, such as adhering to building codes/passing building inspections when building / remodeling a home

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    doesnt matter, you are still 'forced' to carry or obtain insurance, or license/permits....i could add to the list of things you are forced to do, such as adhering to building codes/passing building inspections when building / remodeling a home
    That's your problem, you don't understand the difference between federal and local/state law. Start by reading the US Constitution and then move to the Federalist Papers.

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    Re: Enrollment In Obamacare's Federal Exchange, So Far, May Only Be In 'Single Digits

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your opinion noted and you can call it what ever you want but don't ignore what is happening to it when you force people to do what they don't want to do. Healthcare is a personal responsibility issue not a Federal issue. If people don't want to purchase healthcare why should the govt. force them to do that? I employed over 1200 people, provide healthcare opportunities to them all, 50% chose to participate. Do you think the Federal Govt should force those other 50% to participate. You see, freedom seems to be whatever some people want it to be and others should be forced into doing what some people want.

    Please give an example of where this President held people responsible for their actions? Give me anywhere in history where our Founders or leaders believed it was the Government's responsibility to mandate health insurance for individuals who didn't want to participate? Our Founders understood it, today's liberals don't. Our country was built on Neighbor helping neighbor and that neighbor was never intended to be a federal bureaucrat
    You are not seeing the wave man. I did not make it, and I am only telling you it is there. If you do not want to see it you will be the one who gets hit. I have done all that I can do for you. At the very least try to see just to keep me from being amused as it hits you. I know you won't, but come on step out of the way. Do something because that looks like it is going to hurt as much as last year when you totally missed the Obama presidency wave. This one is bigger and you are not going to be the same afterwards. You can chose to find a new fate, but I cannot make you. Oh, and when it hits do remember I told you and am laughing at you.

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