One funny thing is, when checking that Kaiser calculator, people who smoke (predominantly the poor) are going to get reamed. They get an automatic 50% surcharge on top of their premium that can not be covered by the subsidy. So the poor folks have to give up their cigarettes... but crack and marijuana is OK.
Even funnier is that the Out of Pocket for the SILVER plan is about $12k which means that this plan won't even save the poor from medical bill induced bankruptcy. The Bronze plan, which is all the poor will be able to afford, is even worse.
Last edited by jmotivator; 10-07-13 at 08:34 AM.
Yeah, all those darned 'lazy' 27 year old's that don't really use health care services outside the occasional visit to a Doctor's Care clinic for a cold, now have to be forced to buy a private product to cover things that they will never use, all in the name of redistribution of their premium money paid.There are half a million people in my state alone who are uninsured, and I think the truth is that most of them want health insurance and have never been willing to jump through the hoops to get it. They're lazy and the mandate will help people go out there and get insurance.
Well, that is a catchy talking point, too bad it isn't the reality of what is taking place.The end result will be a better system, one in which people start getting preventative care. It's going to make our country better, and for the many posters in this thread who talk about how horrible they think Obama is, making the country better seems like a pretty good use of our money.
You libs just can't help yourselves can you? THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUSH!!!Bush - used our money to invade two countries. Obama - used our money to set up affordable health insurance for the majority of our citizens.
With all due respect, lots of things 'seem' good on paper, when in practical application they are disasters, this is no different.I can see why that's so scary to Republicans. No, I'm just kidding, I have no idea why anybody would be terrified of the ACA. We need to reform entitlement programs and get spending down, granted, but Obamacare seems good to me.
First thing that will go up is the fine for not buying obamasurance.
"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!
The minimum insurance requirements under ACA fix that. Can't offer something with $2,000 maximum payout and call it health insurance.
did you not understand my post? for the premiums to stay where they are at now million will need to sign up for Obama care and not use it. if all that signs up are like you looking forward to running up a bill Obama care will collapse