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    Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    House Democratic leaders believe they have hit on a new way to potentially force House Republican leaders into allowing a vote on a “clean CR” funding the government without any defunding of Obamacare attached.

    At last count, as many as two dozen House Republicans appear prepared to vote for a clean CR. With Democrats included, that means a majority of the House of Representatives would vote right now to reopen the government. But the House GOP leadership won’t allow such a vote.

    Dems have hit on a way to use a “discharge petition,” which forces a House vote if a majority of Representatives signs it, to try to force the issue. Previously, it was thought this could not work, because a discharge petition takes 30 legislative days to ripen, so if this were tried with the clean CR that passed the Senate, this couldn’t bear fruit until some time in November.

    But now House Democrats say they have found a previously filed bill to use as a discharge petition — one that would fund the government at sequester levels.

    The bill in question is the “Government Shutdown Prevention Act,” which was introduced in March by GOP Rep. James Lankford of Oklahoma. As the Congressman’s release describes it:

    If Congress fails to approve a budget by the end of each fiscal year, the Government Shutdown Prevention Act would ensure that all operations remain running normally without any interruption of services by automatically triggering a continuing resolution (CR) or short-term, stop-gap spending device. The bill creates an automatic CR for any regular appropriations bill not completed before the end of the fiscal year. After the first 120 days, auto-CR funding would be reduced by one percentage point and would continue to be reduced by that margin every 90 days.
    UPDATE: One slight clarification. If Dems can get the 218 signatures on the discharge petition, then Dems would use a procedural move to replace the Lankford bill with an amendment: A clean CR, just like the one in the Senate. So this would not enshrine the periodic one-percent reductions in spending in the Lankford measure.
    Can this happen this way?
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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Just like they resorted to a "trick" to pass ACA and want to rely on a "trick" the to have the President raise the debt ceiling himself, I guess the Democrats will use a "trick" to get their way. Pathetic, but that's how they operate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMak00 View Post
    Just like they resorted to a "trick" to pass ACA and want to rely on a "trick" the to have the President raise the debt ceiling himself, I guess the Democrats will use a "trick" to get their way. Pathetic, but that's how they operate...
    That is how they have always operated. Just look at their list of accomplishments.

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak00 View Post
    Just like they resorted to a "trick" to pass ACA and want to rely on a "trick" the to have the President raise the debt ceiling himself, I guess the Democrats will use a "trick" to get their way. Pathetic, but that's how they operate...
    Which trick do you think allowed the passage of the ACA?
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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Haven't you been schooled yet by these RepubLiCong insurgents that 'you're an "us vs. them" Dem'?
    We all know the party of trickey dickey would never use tricks.
    We also know Repups have never used "discharge petitions'. Poor things.
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    Which trick do you think allowed the passage of the ACA?

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which trick do you think allowed the passage of the ACA?
    Which chamber did the bill start in?

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    25 out of 44 Repub Senators refused to filibuster Senate Dems.
    When Senate Dems wanted cloture to remove default language from the CR.
    This fact will never go away.

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Getting Republicans to dissent is far more difficult than their Democratic counterparts, but there are a couple dozen moderates who are getting raked over the coals in their own centrist districts. That being said, the House Democrats would still have to offer them "something" that could convince skeptics at least in their own districts that their dissent was worth undermining GOP solidarity, and the Senate and Obama would have to approve that deal.

    ... it could establish a healthy precedent if Republicans as well as Democrats could collude with each other against their own parties.
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    My problem with the this whole thing is if the GOP succeeds here the precedent set can be catastrophic. Imagine anytime a party gets control of the House all they will have to do is decide to defund any law they don't like.
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