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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Republicans are still trying to nullify laws enacted in past Congresses without actually nulluifying them.
    Just as Repubs like Birther Cruz's Father continue to try to delegitimize the President by calling him a Muslim.
    Repubs are losing the debate and now want to "negotiate" over "laws".
    We have heard them say what is coming next, SS, Medicare, Medicaid and
    every other social program that Paul Ryan once benefitted from but now wants to kill.
    DOMA says what????

    You may go now.

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Republicans are still trying to nullify laws enacted in past Congresses without actually nulluifying them.
    Just as Repubs like Birther Cruz's Father continue to try to delegitimize the President by calling him a Muslim.
    Repubs are losing the debate and now want to "negotiate" over "laws".
    We have heard them say what is coming next, SS, Medicare, Medicaid and
    every other social program that Paul Ryan once benefitted from but now wants to kill.
    I like how you already posted this today and ignored my response.

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    You see? You are offered several channels for rational conversation, deeper consideration of the issues, and their underpinning philosophies, and instead of taking the minimal effort required to rise to the tiny challenge, you circle back to an earlier, unsophisticated, vapid statement.

    Progress is not measured in receptions of a circular path, you know.

    Carry on.
    You offered contentless garbage hodge-podge of throwing generalized crap at the wall and pretending it stuck. You supported nothing you said so actually there is no engagement to be had in such clap-trap. When one does that it is in fact strawmanning up a entire... "herp derp librul bad herp derp" scenario. But who am I to tell someone whose declared themselves superior?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    It can but the odds are against it:

    Since 2002, 74 discharge petitions have been introduced. None have received the requisite number of signatures to progress to a floor vote. And all but one of those petitions was initiated by a member of the minority party
    The article goes on to say:

    Discharge petitions are markedly more successful when they are initiated or threatened by members of the majority party.
    How the Discharge Petition Can Help Congress Move on Immigration Reform | Brookings Institution

    I don't see any current GOP member who will risk their standing in the majority party to 'buck' the leadership by sponsoring this...but who know...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    At 53 posts, you're still in the womb when it comes to telling people where to go son.
    Quote Originally Posted by JMak00 View Post
    DOMA says what????

    You may go now.

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    At 53 posts, you're still in the womb when it comes to telling people where to go son.
    And I just showed you the door...maybe you ought figure it out before you go off stupid at the mouth...bye-bye

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Forcing an up or down vote is a 'trick'? I would have thought that sane people would have thought being able to shut down the government at all was the biggest trick of all, but I guess up is down in today's world.
    Wow...you Democrats, liberals, and progressives just don't know jack squat about anything, do you? "Trick" is not my word here, it's from the article and it's precisely what is being done. Just like using a budget reconciliation trick to pass a non-budget bill like ACA. What are you having trouble here with???

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Don't you love these threads where 6 members are shown but only 5 names appear?
    I wonder which political lean hides the most around here, like Mitt did behind Ann's dress.

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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    You offered contentless garbage hodge-podge of throwing generalized crap at the wall and pretending it stuck. You supported nothing you said so actually there is no engagement to be had in such clap-trap. When one does that it is in fact strawmanning up a entire... "herp derp librul bad herp derp" scenario. But who am I to tell someone whose declared themselves superior?

    If I supported nothing I said, or if it wasn't self apparent, it should have been easy to refute rationally. Simple denial is not a rational refutation. And constant repetition of childish phrases in a functional adult is tiresome.

    One generally cannot refute a well constructed and stated Conservative political argument with a modern American Liberal Argument and remain rational, I've noticed. This is because the liberal Argument will usually be made in denial of history, experience, and arithmetic, but will usually rely heavily upon supposition, assumption and fantasy. Virtually any such argument that includes a promise that something desirable will be provided "free," or that anything government proposes will remain within the budget established for it at its inception, will fit this description.
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    Re: Dems move to force Republicans to reopen the government

    another internet tough guy from the f right-wing

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