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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Of course he shouldn't. He!s just the president. Since when is the president held responsible? Since Obama was elected...that's when.
    I think you have this backwards.

    It should be "Since when is the president NOT held responsible? Since Obama was elected...that's when."

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Are you being comical, or is it your de facto position to worship at the Big Tent?
    I'm just saying we cannot say this is breach of contract since we have no idea what that contract actually says. For all we know this situation is covered in the contract and the government is within its rights.

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    I'm just saying we cannot say this is breach of contract since we have no idea what that contract actually says. For all we know this situation is covered in the contract and the government is within its rights.
    Government shutdowns in the contract. Right. I keep forgetting how common these things are.

    Maybe if a wild badger destroys your place, you can call your insurance company and see if they have a "what if" clause for it.

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the tenant does not follow the unilateral contract modification to discontinue operations, then the contractor has no basis to recover a claim against the government for lost revenues/profits
    again, that you are unable to understand something so basic is not a surprise
    Well, seeing as we are not talking about a UCM here since nobody is discussing, nobody with the exception of you, trying at some point in the future to recover a claim against lost revenues. Rather, we were talking about this guy keeping his operation open, with diners and overnight guests already booked ahead of time I think it would be logical to surmise...

    This from the article: "Rooms cost $125 a night and the restaurant would serve about 20,000 tourists during a typical October, O’Connell said"

    That is a lot of unnecessarily turned away customers, a lot of money and I doubt for which the government has offered to compensate fully... and if they did I would even be more outraged as this business operation using nothing under Federal responsibility but that which is rented and maintained by the Concession operator should remain open... this is just vindictive and stupid.

    In any event, you have backpedaled enough, it grows truly tiresome with all these feeble attempts to extricate one from the wreckage of a flat out wrong initial statement.

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the tenant does not follow the unilateral contract modification to discontinue operations, then the contractor has no basis to recover a claim against the government for lost revenues/profits
    again, that you are unable to understand something so basic is not a surprise
    You may have a point. It's not the point you intended to make however. True the operator may be able to make a claim against lost revenue however this independent businessman didn't want to rely on government to insure his profit. He preferred self reliance and not putting his hand in the public till. On the other hand, Obama has shown that in a shut down, instead of not spending money that's not authorized, he will actually spend more money to inconvenience people for a cheap political point. It's petty and small minded, just the kind of dirty politics that Obama is making famous.

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    The AFA hasn't even been passed and yet it has still become hugely political, with the government actually, and unnecessarily, closing down parks and businesses. What slow witted AFA supporters don't seem to understand from all of this is that it will always be political. Parties will promise more of it, less of it (in order to pay off tremendous debt) but it will always be a serious political football which will drag the country down even further.

    When a politician and his bureaucrats claim they can close down anything on a whim then even the most ardent pro Obama leftist should give this a moments thought. This is not good or competent or honest government, it is a revenge government on anyone who dares defy them.

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

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    It is also true that Obama had more people at the memorial than he has on the moon. So?
    ...but how many potatoes does he have in outer space, man? Hmm? Answer me that!

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The AFA hasn't even been passed and yet it has still become hugely political, with the government actually, and unnecessarily, closing down parks and businesses. What slow witted AFA supporters don't seem to understand from all of this is that it will always be political. Parties will promise more of it, less of it (in order to pay off tremendous debt) but it will always be a serious political football which will drag the country down even further.

    When a politician and his bureaucrats claim they can close down anything on a whim then even the most ardent pro Obama leftist should give this a moments thought. This is not good or competent or honest government, it is a revenge government on anyone who dares defy them.
    Pardon my ignorance, but what is the AFA?

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