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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if the property owner tells you to close the property, close the property
    then recover what you would have earned thru the courts
    winning a contract dispute with the federal government is always an enriching proposition
    A property owner cannot tell you to close your business. The property owner has no say in what goes on on that property when the rent is paid.

    Where do you get your ideas?

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    A property owner cannot tell you to close your business. The property owner has no say in what goes on on that property when the rent is paid.

    Where do you get your ideas?
    Not completely true. A property owner is entitled to impose some reasonable restrictions on what a renter can do with the property.

    A landlord cannot, however, prohibit a renter from using the property for exactly the purpose for which the property is being rented.
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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Not completely true. A property owner is entitled to impose some reasonable restrictions on what a renter can do with the property.

    A landlord cannot, however, prohibit a renter from using the property for exactly the purpose for which the property is being rented.
    You are correct and that is done when the property is rented, not down the road to hurt the renters business.

    After the contract is signed by both sides, the changes have to be made by agreement by both sides.

    In this case the property owner came in and says they have to stop their business. The property owner in this case has nothing to say as to what the renter is doing.

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I find it interesting that you're regurgitating Fox News talking points right on schedule.

    Clearly without thinking about them.
    That's the thing about the truth - one can either lie about it; or, if they have yet a semblance of self respect, they do what you did here and merely joke about it. Either way, it remains the truth.
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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    A property owner cannot tell you to close your business. The property owner has no say in what goes on on that property when the rent is paid.

    Where do you get your ideas?
    you are correct. unless the contract indicates otherwise, the tenant is entitled to quiet enjoyment of the property
    and barring any contract language to the contrary, the tenant's decision to remain open is his to make
    but being able to do something does not make it smart to do something
    which is something i do not expect you to understand
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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Actually, no he cannot. It's called breach of contract.

    He could take them to court, but there would be extensive punitive penalties because of damages.

    It's not in the government's best interest to argue this. Of course, they've never been models of efficiency or sense, nor have people who blindly support it.
    Without having read the contract how can any of us here determine whether this is or isn't breach of contract? Did the Blue Ridge hotel post their contract publicly somewhere?

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    http://www.citizen-times.com/article...nment-shutdown

    the fellow is a fool
    he should read his lease agreement
    and if there is no provision for such closure (i would bet there is) he could sue for the feds violating the terms of the contract causing him loss of income and profits. he would then be able to make out like a bandit
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    ...I mean, who has or needs insomnia...??

    And I hate to bring this up, but I always do when folks on your side are just that insulting...but you are aware that the majority of the true "teabaggers" are by far on your side of the aisle...shouldn't you be a little more sensitive to their proclivities and that this is really more on their turf? A little presumptuous to use the term so disparagingly, perhaps?
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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you are correct. unless the contract indicates otherwise, the tenant is entitled to quiet enjoyment of the property
    and barring any contract language to the contrary, the tenant's decision to remain open is his to make
    but being able to do something does not make it smart to do something
    which is something i do not expect you to understand
    Wow, a complete bail on your original premise, then quick, the big back-peddle/deflect...almost flawless in its succinct execution... being a gymnast or a contortionist in your past, or future maybe?
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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you are correct. unless the contract indicates otherwise, the tenant is entitled to quiet enjoyment of the property
    and barring any contract language to the contrary, the tenant's decision to remain open is his to make
    but being able to do something does not make it smart to do something
    which is something i do not expect you to understand
    Thanks for the insult, but I do consider the source.

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    Re: Blue Ridge hotel defies Park Service shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Wow, a complete bail on your original premise, then quick, the big back-peddle/deflect...almost flawless in its succinct execution... being a gymnast or a contortionist in your past, or future maybe?
    please point out any posts in which what i presented is at odds with the more current post
    accept the challenge
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    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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