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    Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    A grassroots committee is calling for all adults in Switzerland to receive an unconditional income of 2,500 Swiss francs ($2,800) per month from the state, with the aim of providing a financial safety net for the population.
    Organizers submitted more than the 100,000 signatures needed to call a referendum on Friday and tipped a truckload of 8 million five-rappen coins outside the parliament building in Berne, one for each person living in Switzerland.
    Under Swiss law, citizens can organize popular initiatives that allow the channeling of public anger into direct political action. The country usually holds several referenda a year.
    In March, Swiss voters backed some of the world's strictest controls on executive pay, forcing public companies to give shareholders a binding vote on compensation.


    I would actually be shocked if the legislation became law. Given that Switzerland is the worlds wealthiest nation on a per-capita basis, they can certainly afford such equality measures. It goes without saying, if they don't have to mangle in the rest of the world's problems, maybe your government can provide basic income for all of its citizens.

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    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post


    I would actually be shocked if the legislation became law. Given that Switzerland is the worlds wealthiest nation on a per-capita basis, they can certainly afford such equality measures. It goes without saying, if they don't have to mangle in the rest of the world's problems, maybe your government can provide basic income for all of its citizens.

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    It's called socialism....

    If such bull**** was implemented they would **** up their monetary system and the GDP would fall and inflation would be more than certain.

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It's called socialism....

    If such bull**** was implemented they would **** up their monetary system and the GDP would fall and inflation would be more than certain.
    Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright. Just like Romney was going to win Illinois in November 2012. Given that you have zero understanding of socialism, your response falls on deaf ears.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post


    I would actually be shocked if the legislation became law. Given that Switzerland is the worlds wealthiest nation on a per-capita basis, they can certainly afford such equality measures. It goes without saying, if they don't have to mangle in the rest of the world's problems, maybe your government can provide basic income for all of its citizens.

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    The Swiss can afford to do this because they have a tightly nit society where everyone carries their own cross. They don't have many layabout and they don't suffer from the social strains that mass immigration from the third world brings. As long as they keep it that way, they'll be fine.

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post


    I would actually be shocked if the legislation became law. Given that Switzerland is the worlds wealthiest nation on a per-capita basis, they can certainly afford such equality measures. It goes without saying, if they don't have to mangle in the rest of the world's problems, maybe your government can provide basic income for all of its citizens.

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    Why would a nation that has become so successful and so wealthy from capitalism throw it into the wind? If they do pass it, it would be the most irrational thing they've done.
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    I've got to say that it is shadenfreudalicious to see the rich and famous fucquewads on the coast suffering from the fires.

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrright. Just like Romney was going to win Illinois in November 2012. Given that you have zero understanding of socialism, your response falls on deaf ears.

    Like you understand socialism?? really?

    Yeah I know socialism to the typical progressive is like a big "hippie commune."

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Does this speak to isolationism? That has to help.
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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    The Swiss can afford to do this because they have a tightly nit society where everyone carries their own cross. They don't have many layabout and they don't suffer from the social strains that mass immigration from the third world brings. As long as they keep it that way, they'll be fine.
    Agreed on all counts.

    I'd also add that it's possible to do things when you've got a population of 8 million that it isn't reasonably possible to do when you've got a population of 320 million.

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    For the Christian riles, and the Aryan smiles and he weareth the Christian down;
    And the end of the fight is a tombstone white with the name of the late deceased,
    And the epitaph drear: “A Fool lies here who tried to hustle the East.”

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Like you understand socialism?? really?
    Socialism is the practice of workers owning the means of production.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Swiss to vote on 2,500 franc basic income for every adult

    Sounds like a terrible idea to me. Providing a welfare net for the unfortunate is one thing, but a nominal blanket income for everybody? No thank you.

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