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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    As the South used to. With their "colored-only" water fountains. My naive British Mother didn't understand that one in Georgia back in the 50's. Unfortunately, she gets the stain of racism now. When you hear the 10th, these "2nd amendment remediers" just want another civil war.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Ah, so now states have the right to discriminate against the interracial marriages of US Citizens? Is that how it works? The states have a right to say - Blacks and whites can't marry because it's immoral. Yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    As the South used to. With their "colored-only" water fountains. My naive British Mother didn't understand that one in Georgia back in the 50's. Unfortunately, she gets the stain of racism now. When you hear the 10th, these "2nd amendment remediers" just want another civil war.
    I'm just trying to see where he stands. Are we banning things because of our own morality? Do the states have a right to discriminate against US citizens? He apparently seems to think all things are equal.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hog wash, it is an individual rights issue.
    Hog wash?

    What right's don't gays have?

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Hog wash?

    What right's don't gays have?
    The right to marriage each other. Heterosexuals have that right.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm just trying to see where he stands. Are we banning things because of our own morality? Do the states have a right to discriminate against US citizens? He apparently seems to think all things are equal.
    In essence all things are equal - are gays arrested and prosecuted under law for being gay?

    Is it ILLEGAL to be gay or engage in gay sex?

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The right to marriage each other. Heterosexuals have that right.
    MARRIAGE IS NOT A RIGHT NOR A CIVIL LIBERTY - is that too difficult to understand?

    I know you wish it was but legally it's NOT...

    Marriage is NOT a legal right... Not even heterosexual marriage - that is a status quo...

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    In essence all things are equal - are gays arrested and prosecuted under law for being gay?
    Since when is arrest and prosecution the only part of the law? There is marriage law, legal guardianship law, benefactor laws - some of which are denied to gay couples.

    Is it ILLEGAL to be gay or engage in gay sex?
    I'm not exactly sure what is worse - that you think the only law which is applicable is "arrest and prosecution" laws or that you think "sex" is the only part of a relationship. Do you have a girlfriend?
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    MARRIAGE IS NOT A RIGHT NOR A CIVIL LIBERTY - is that too difficult to understand?
    Loving v. Virginia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Quote Originally Posted by SCOTUS
    Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.
    Your statement is false. May I suggest you take classes in the history of law in the US?
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    He stands with all of the Southern Confederate states who wish to continue denying health care to those who don't have it.
    They must be mobilized to vote in 2014 no matter what barriers are put up, like the North Carolina ones.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm just trying to see where he stands. Are we banning things because of our own morality? Do the states have a right to discriminate against US citizens? He apparently seems to think all things are equal.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Mr. Nick, you keep ducking and dodging - if marriage is not a right or civil liberty: Why are blacks allowed to marry whites?
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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