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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    ~snip~

    So as I have previously stated - amend the Constitution if you want gay marriage, if that isn't possible petition the state...

    My opinion on the issue really means nothing because I really don't care - I'm not an activist because it's really not a constitutional issue - and as a libertarian the constitution mans everything.
    The Federal constitution doesn't define marriage in either case, so I don't see how an amendment is necessary, what is it meant to amend? If you meant the state constitutions, that's different, but it's still a moot point; state constitutions are supposed to further protect the natural rights from the Federal constitution, they were never meant to limit natural rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It doesn't need to be in The Constitution. By DESIGN, the Framers left social issues to be left to the state. All Founding Fathers believed homosexuality to be a deviant abomination. The concept of Gay Marriage was completely repulsive and alien to them.

    Quick question:

    How many Gay children can 2 gay men reproduce?
    Yup, because the Founding Fathers are the role models of America. (cough) (cough) Slaves (cough).

    Reproduction is not a function of Marriage. You can have children without marriage, you can have marriage without children. They aren't connected, it's a really simple concept.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Cue the 'tards in 3....2....1...
    Or right at about post six.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What sates are and the states that do are not entitled to their Tenth Amendment rights?

    A better question to ask is why you feel so authoritarian on this issue?

    several stats - you know this.

    Why you have a problem with the Tenth Amendment? or are you a federalist sympathizer who believes the federal government is the end all and dictates civil liberties - that it's the federal government that allows us to have individual freedom??? You appear to be a collectivist that subscribes to that notion..

    Maybe the general populace employs the local, county, state and federal government and we limit them -- they don't limit us.... Maybe when the Federal Government wants to make apont they send there COP SS storm troopers out?...
    10th Amendment rights of the state have been limited by the 14th Amendment for well over a hundred years now. Those who are all about states' rights need to start understanding this point. You cannot simply stomp all over individuals' rights because you have taken your tyrannies (of the majority) to smaller forms of government, the states.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Quick question:

    How many Gay children can 2 gay men reproduce?
    #1 Dozens and dozens. Being gay does not mean infertile. Gay men can donate sperm for implantation by a woman just like heterosexual men can.

    #2 So if your assumption is that gay men produce gay children, then you are admitting that there is a biological component to homosexuality. (Which is a pretty dumb assumption since heterosexual couples produce homosexual children also.)


    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Quick question:

    How many Gay children can 2 gay men reproduce?
    Now, I've answered your question.

    Your turn.

    Name any state in the union that limits Civil Marriage to only couples able to conceive children together.

    BTW - At least one state that I can think of requires couples to be infertle before they will allow them to Civilly Marry.



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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Now, I've answered your question.

    Your turn.

    Name any state in the union that limits Civil Marriage to only couples able to conceive children together.

    BTW - At least one state that I can think of requires couples to be infertle before they will allow them to Civilly Marry.

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    Actually 5 or 6 states have that as a limitation when it comes to first cousins. Arizona, Utah, Illinois, and Maine, and Indiana and Wisconsin seem to have the same thing but I guess have something else (?).

    Here is the site I use for the info.

    State laws and cousin marriage | Cousin Marriage Resources

    The majority of these exceptions have an age that the woman has to be (generally above 55) or a written doctor's statement that one or both are infertile.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Isn't it hilariously hypocritical how most the vocal anti-ssm members are males, and how every single example they give about what's "wrong" with ssm revolves around male-male, and they NEVER EVER site female-female????

    I smell fear. Nothing but fear.

    You just know that they LOVE watching two girls "do stuff"...

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings





    Typical "conservative/republican" ignorance.

    What a douche nozzle.

    So he's saying homosexual = incest


    A true moron in so many ways.
    It's no different than incest.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Or right at about post six.
    More like #7.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    It's no different than incest.
    Very different than incest, particularly in the way the laws around marriage work when it comes to familial relationships or even how they work when it comes to how incestuous relationships are legally viewed (illegal in all but one state, RI being the exception) compared to same sex relationships (completely legal in all states).
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It doesn't need to be in The Constitution. By DESIGN, the Framers left social issues to be left to the state.
    They did, yet whenever a state decides that gay marriage is OK in their state, all you "Constitutionalists" fly off the handle.

    All Founding Fathers believed homosexuality to be a deviant abomination. The concept of Gay Marriage was completely repulsive and alien to them
    Prove it. Let's see a quote from EVERY signer of the Declaration of Independence that says they believe homosexuality to be a deviant abomination. You said ALL of them, so let's see you prove it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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