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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    It doesn't matter what this guy says, or what anyone says. The law and the constitution are quite clear. Same sex marriage will be a settled issue, nationally protected and recognized, and exactly the same as opposite sex marriage. And it will be settled soon. That's all there is to it.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You didn't answer - I asked WHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION is marriage defined?
    It doesn't need to be in The Constitution. By DESIGN, the Framers left social issues to be left to the state. All Founding Fathers believed homosexuality to be a deviant abomination. The concept of Gay Marriage was completely repulsive and alien to them.

    Quick question:

    How many Gay children can 2 gay men reproduce?

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well i agree the "flak" and its amount is the debatable part but its poor poor poor judgement

    just the reality of media/politics today unfortunately
    IMO, that reality is more of an issue than the issue of gay marriage Then again, it probably negatively affects the gay marriage debate in many cases, so in away the two are related.


    Edit: For example, I would almost guarantee you that the various conservative media outlets (especially the national radio talk show ones) will be talking about how the media (probably they'll say "the left wing media", or "the mainstream media") intentionally took his words out of context to forward their (the media's) agenda supporting gay marriage.

    Then I bet the persons who want to believe that gay marriage is wrong will take that as proof they are being persecuted by the evil left-wing types, and it will shore up their belief that they are right (pun not intended until I realized it was there).

    Which harms the gay marriage supporting side of the gay marriage debate.

    Or something like that.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So - does the state - by the same morality under which it bans gay marriages have a right to ban interracial marriages? yes or no? Simple answer.
    What sates are and the states that do are not entitled to their Tenth Amendment rights?

    A better question to ask is why you feel so authoritarian on this issue?

    several stats - you know this.

    Why you have a problem with the Tenth Amendment? or are you a federalist sympathizer who believes the federal government is the end all and dictates civil liberties - that it's the federal government that allows us to have individual freedom??? You appear to be a collectivist that subscribes to that notion..

    Maybe the general populace employs the local, county, state and federal government and we limit them -- they don't limit us.... Maybe when the Federal Government wants to make apont they send there COP SS storm troopers out?...

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    IMO, that reality is more of an issue than the issue of gay marriage Then again, it probably negatively affects the gay marriage debate in many cases, so in away the two are related.


    Edit: For example, I would almost guarantee you that the various conservative media outlets (especially the national radio talk show ones) will be talking about how the media (probably they'll say "the left wing media", or "the mainstream media") intentionally took his words out of context to forward their (the media's) agenda supporting gay marriage.

    Then I bet the persons who want to believe that gay marriage is wrong will take that as proof they are being persecuted by the evil left-wing types, and it will shore up their belief that they are right (pun not intended until I realized it was there).

    Which harms the gay marriage supporting side of the gay marriage debate.

    Or something like that.
    all true on the surface IMO but meaningless to anybody honest and intelligent.

    but you are spot on
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Interracial marriage = man + woman ( doesn't change the definition of marriage)

    Gay Sham/Pretend "Marriage" (Not) = man + ?

    Not comparable. Oil and Water.

    BTW a father marrying his adult son (for tax purposes/sex too consenting adults heh) should be legal if gay sham/pretend "marriage" (Not) is legal
    once again proving how uneducated you are on this topic, court cases already disagree with you
    your post lose again to facts
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The notion that the definition of marriage = man + woman is the oldest notion of a tradition and definition of an institution in human history

    Gay Math = 1 + 1 = 0
    gay marriage exsisted BC, please educated yourself on this topic otherwise your post will continue to fail and get destroyed by the majority of posters here
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    It's an odd analogy but makes sense from the fact that homosexuality is as abnormal as incest and not to mention the slippery slope gay marriage represents.... Hell, gay marriage by de facto discriminates against others in "taboo" relationships...

    I don't think it takes a "conservative" to realize that... An intelligent person of any political affiliation (or no political affiliation at all) can see that...
    This is a slippery slope fallacy and it applies because other "taboo" relationships are not analogous to SSM, therefore there is no discrimination.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Just because you disagree doesn't make it not fact.... You just don't like it because you're partisan and take sides and don't give a **** what the rational counter argument is because you view it as a partisan political statement rather than a rational argument.

    Gay marriage discriminates against cousins who want incestrial marriage, polygamy, marriage to pets or inanimate objects etc... what about them??? you going to discriminate against them?

    No true ignorance is only focusing on one idea and ignoring the rest....
    No, this ridiculous position has been proven false many times. It is a silly slippery slope logical fallacy since the situations are not analogous. And since they are not analogous, there is no discrimination. But let's see if you know the difference between two women wanting to get married and an individual wanting to marry a houseplant. When you figure this out, you'll know why what you said above is invalid.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What sates are and the states that do are not entitled to their Tenth Amendment rights?
    They all are and what individual is not entitled to their rights?

    A better question to ask is why you feel so authoritarian on this issue?
    Say what? you are promoting authoritarian via States rights over individual rights.

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