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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How is it much different?
    2.)If they argument is that we shouldn't discriminate against other people's relationships and people should be able to marry freely then
    3.)why keep incest bans in place
    4.)while SSM is somehow an "equality" or "human rights" issue?
    1.) easy been over this tons
    2.) this is not the sole argument on any level thats why all the examples that follow always fail. we should illegally discriminate, we shouldn't deny equal rights

    now on to your example

    3.) incest was legal, then banned, then legal now mostly banned. THis banning is based of the danger of biological inbedding. Its banned becasue the law determined there could be a victium the child that is more likely to be born deformed.

    now if doctors got this wrong, im have no issues with it
    if doctors got it right and they want to fight to be married but we regulate breeding based on this that fine by me

    either way, none of that has anythign to do with gays marriage

    4.) not somehow, factually and equality and human rights issue.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How is it much different? If they argument is that we shouldn't discriminate against other people's relationships and people should be able to marry freely then why keep incest bans in place while SSM is somehow an "equality" or "human rights" issue?
    Gays want marriage officially recognized by the federal government - heterosexuals don't even get that, hence if gays can accomplish the feat - they're setting up a slippery slope based on mere precedence (an idea they don't understand)....

    Polygamists and incest psychos will be the next in line to claim they're being "discriminated against.." of course the gays will be the first ones to discriminate against them.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    WHOOOOOA!!!!

    the dip**** doesnt represent the all of us lol

    PA is actually slated to be one of the next states to have gay marriage two pending court cases are going to see to that. all he is just upset because PAs AG wont defined the bannings of gay marriage so he has too lol
    I wouldn't suggest he represents all of you, but any time I hear a story about someone in the North doing or saying something that you would expect to come out of the South, you can bet that state is going to be Pennsylvania. In my experience that state is practically teeming with old, angry white men, and with every cartoonish stereotype that comes with that image.

    I grew up in the North East, and I'm telling you no other state is like Pennsylvania.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    J still doesn't get it the concept of "ignore."
    you still dont get the concept of posting lies and me and many others destroying them
    trying to ignore it happening doesnt change the fact it is, it just exposes the fear you have of trying to defend the topic and failing
    also posting that is not ignoring
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    How is it much different? If they argument is that we shouldn't discriminate against other people's relationships and people should be able to marry freely then why keep incest bans in place while SSM is somehow an "equality" or "human rights" issue?
    The great state of Tennessee has yet to ban incest marriage. I don't know of a single state that won't recognize cousins married outside of the state even if they won't allow the marriage to be legalized within state lines. Tennessee, where you can **** your cousin and nobody bats an eyes unless that cousin is the same sex as you.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think the problem with the article in the OP is that it completely misconstrues the PA Governor's statement.

    Granted I don't by any means agree with the guy on everything, but in this case it seems to me that he said nothing wrong. Assuming I am understanding things correctly here.
    well i sorta agree about the OP its a little over the top based on the content of the discussion the governed was having

    but his statment is definitely wrong still, at lest he was tryign to clean it up from comparing it to child rape but he failed.
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) easy been over this tons
    2.) this is not the sole argument on any level thats why all the examples that follow always fail. we should illegally discriminate, we shouldn't deny equal rights

    now on to your example

    3.) incest was legal, then banned, then legal now mostly banned. THis banning is based of the danger of biological inbedding. Its banned becasue the law determined there could be a victium the child that is more likely to be born deformed.

    now if doctors got this wrong, im have no issues with it
    if doctors got it right and they want to fight to be married but we regulate breeding based on this that fine by me

    either way, none of that has anythign to do with gays marriage

    4.) not somehow, factually and equality and human rights issue.
    The childhood argument is used against SSM often as well pointing out the fact that their sex isn't reproductive and is biologically wasted from a human reproduction standpoint. Why not allow incest couples to just have abortions if they are with child? There is an increased risk, but it's still just a risk and not a definite outcome. People are against incest because they are bigoted against sibling love. It disgusts them and they go based on their feelings. They are intolerant of that kind of relationship. If two consenting siblings love each other and want to wed who should stop them?

    What about a homosexual relationship between siblings? There is no problem with children there, why ban that?

    You like to toss around the word "fact" a lot. Please show me the solid, empirical "facts" regarding human rights and why SSM is a human right. Don't confuse your perspective or opinion with "fact" either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The great state of Tennessee has yet to ban incest marriage. I don't know of a single state that won't recognize cousins married outside of the state even if they won't allow the marriage to be legalized within state lines. Tennessee, where you can **** your cousin and nobody bats an eyes unless that cousin is the same sex as you.
    Thank God TN isn't a state with bigoted laws that respects human rights, equality and all that other wonderful stuff
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So unfortunate that there are people who actually think, believe, and vocalize absolute horse excrement like the above.

    Truly sad.

    Truly ignorant.
    SO truly sad, and ignorant, in fact, that we need not... actually.... you know.... come up with any reasons why it is wrong. The mere power of our self-congratulation and mutual reinforcement is enough to demonstrate the point.

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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I wouldn't suggest he represents all of you, but any time I hear a story about someone in the North doing or saying something that you would expect to come out of the South, you can bet that state is going to be Pennsylvania. In my experience that state is practically teeming with old, angry white men, and with every cartoonish stereotype that comes with that image.

    I grew up in the North East, and I'm telling you no other state is like Pennsylvania.
    hmmm well i dont know what the consensus is outside the state

    but inside the state there are many jokes about how theres the cities Pittsburgh and philly and its Mississippi inbetween

    i myself have been throughout the Northeast and live here all my life and i have to agree it is unique, you go to the tright mall and you will have every stereotype presnt lol
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    Re: Pa. gov: Gay marriage is like marriage of siblings

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    hmmm well i dont know what the consensus is outside the state

    but inside the state there are many jokes about how theres the cities Pittsburgh and philly and its Mississippi inbetween

    i myself have been throughout the Northeast and live here all my life and i have to agree it is unique, you go to the tright mall and you will have every stereotype presnt lol
    Well, to be fair, it's the countryside where I picked up that particular first-hand impression, especially the entire area in and around Wilkes Barre. I'm not familiar with the tright mall.
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