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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

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    Thanks Agent....God that would have been terrifying....Can you imagine?...Man.
    no i cant, like i said per everything i read and the videos i saw IMO the bikers got off lucky, very lucky
    some people try to say the driver was blood thirst but thats just dumb since he could have killed about 10 of them easy with 2 swipes of the wheel
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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    no i cant, like i said per everything i read and the videos i saw IMO the bikers got off lucky, very lucky
    some people try to say the driver was blood thirst but thats just dumb since he could have killed about 10 of them easy with 2 swipes of the wheel
    Absolutely, and the reckless nature of their documented ride, video provided earlier in the thread by Fiddy I think, shows that they were terrorizing the city. Up on sidewalks, riding on shoulders, inbetween other cars, and on the wrong side of the road. They were a safety menace....

    But like I said, thanks for the heads up on the law, because I know I wouldn't have stopped either. But then again, I wouldn't have gotten off at 178th either, that was a traffic jam waiting to happen.
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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I ride myself, and also drive a car as well and have seen nothing like that..... The only reason why I could possibly think the guy was boxed in was because he was tailgating them or taunting them for no reason..... Can't say I have ever seen a group of bikers just provoke for no reason whatsoever.......

    I'm pretty sure he wasn't just singled out for no reason.....
    Which doesn't mean there aren't some that aren't like you or those you know. That was definitely completely the fault of the bikers unless something else completely comes out. But I honestly don't care what that guy might have did to them that they took offense to, they were at fault. Nothing he could have done prior to that video's start could justify their actions.
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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely, and the reckless nature of their documented ride, video provided earlier in the thread by Fiddy I think, shows that they were terrorizing the city. Up on sidewalks, riding on shoulders, inbetween other cars, and on the wrong side of the road. They were a safety menace....

    But like I said, thanks for the heads up on the law, because I know I wouldn't have stopped either. But then again, I wouldn't have gotten off at 178th either, that was a traffic jam waiting to happen.
    ill see if i can find the article for you, its just i read so many and there are three threads about this it may take a minute
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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Absolutely, and the reckless nature of their documented ride, video provided earlier in the thread by Fiddy I think, shows that they were terrorizing the city. Up on sidewalks, riding on shoulders, inbetween other cars, and on the wrong side of the road. They were a safety menace....

    But like I said, thanks for the heads up on the law, because I know I wouldn't have stopped either. But then again, I wouldn't have gotten off at 178th either, that was a traffic jam waiting to happen.
    They appear and sound like a rogue "Mad Max" crotch rocket gang....

    Using the word "terrorizing" seems excessive but that is exactly what they were doing.

    I've never seen anything like that before...


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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    Even the Hel's Angels are condemning the bikers. I can only guess they must be prejudiced against bikers.

    Hells Angels rip biker’s highway beatdown | New York Post

    Even the Hells Angels are appalled by a motorcycle gang’s savage beatdown of a father on the West Side Highway — saying the heartless brutes crossed a line when they messed with a family.

    “That kind of behavior is unacceptable — and with a kid in the car, nonetheless! I have a 3-year-old niece,” said one biker who was hanging out at the Hells Angels’ East Village headquarters Thursday.

    He slammed the thugs for taking the law into their own hands by chasing down and beating Internet executive Alexian Lien, 33, on Sunday after a fender bender on the highway.

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    Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    As a biker, I have little sympathy for the group of bikers there. The guy who was initially hit was being irresponsible and an ass breaking in front of the car forcing the initial collision. Group ride or not, the bikers do not own the road nor have legitimate authority to stop traffic like that. Assholes like this give all of us a bad name.

    Was kind of shocked to see it was sport bikes instead of cruisers though. Not the stereotype

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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    Some information on the Lien's 911 calls have come out.

    Before the beginning of the video - I wonder if the biker's realized and would explain why they were so aggressive towards SUV driver:
    At that point, a series of 911 calls had already been made to police. The first was at 1:52 p.m., when Lien's wife told police that there was a large group of motorcycles driving recklessly.
    This is right after he hits the biker and before he takes off:
    In a second call at 1:53, she reported that their car was being hit by the bikers. She said she was in the car with her husband and 2-year-old daughter.
    This is at their second attempt to stop - when the biker pulled the door open:
    At 1:55, Lien himself called and gave police his current location. This is near where the door was pulled open.
    Obviously after the video had cut-out:
    At 2 p.m., the wife told 911 the windows were being smashed and her husband was being assaulted.
    I still have a hard time wrapping my head around how people can support the bikers - including at least one poster at this website.

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    http://www.wibw.com/home/nationalnew...226601561.html

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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ha! It just shows how unreliable eyewitness testimony is. I saw something completely different. I saw a motorcyclist deliberately slow waaay down right on the front bumper of the SUV and turn-around to make sure the driver "got his point." It was at that point that the SUV bumped the cyclist -- didn't tip his bike, by the way.
    That's what I saw. I saw this on the news earlier this week. I don't blame the driver, who had his wife and child with him, for driving over a few of them in an attempt to get out of the situation.

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    Re: Motorcyclists Pull Driver from Car in NYC, Beat Him After Collision

    From what I can gather watching the video and having participated in large rides like this...

    To start, it seems the SUV was determined to drive in the middle of the road. GENERALLY, the etiquette when there is a large group of bikes on a multilane road is to get into the right lane (unless you need a left exit for some reason) and give the outer lanes to the group of bikes. That said, it's etiquette, not law. It seems that despite being in the midst of the group of bikes, the SUV was simply wanting to ride in the middle lane and probably had been for a bit of time as the bikes ended up "Surrounding" it because they had to drive/pass on both sides because of where the SUV was driving.

    It then looks like a few bikers become annoyed that the SUV is doing it, and one particular idiot seems to get in front of the SUV and preceeds to break heavily to slow themselves leading to what LOOKS like the SUV hitting the bike from behind (we don't see the contact on the video, but right up to the moment before it).

    This contact would actually provide a reason why all the bikers likely finally stopped. While people in a group may be annoyed by someone with poor etiquette, the moment a bike is actually HIT (For whatever reason) it's likely to draw the attention of the entire group. Once it was realized a biker was hit, the entire group likely came to a stop to both give the hit biker a chance to regain control of the bike AND likely (wrongly) to give the SUV crap.

    Now, while I think the hitting of the biker is the REASON everyone stopped...the stopping isn't really justified nor was the hit entirely on the SUV guy. At this point your probably having bikers talking/arguing with the SUV driver, causing him to be nervous, and leading to the whole mess that proceeds to occur.

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