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    Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Now there's video from Wednesday of Texas Republican Rep. Randy Neugebauer telling a Park Service ranger that she and her bosses should be ashamed for carrying out the order that the memorial, like other national parks and monuments, should be closed because there's no money available to keep them open.

    Neugebauer was there as more WWII veterans were allowed to visit the memorial because the Park Service has decided the vets are exercising their First Amendment rights. But he wasn't pleased that other members of the public weren't being allowed on to the memorial site. He told the ranger that the Park Service should be ashamed. She said it's difficult to turn people away, but that she wasn't ashamed. "You should be," Neugebauer responded.
    Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial : The Two-Way : NPR


    YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED of doing what the latest political fiasco in Washington has forced you to do.


    This reminds me of when Elliot Spitzer used to descend on gas stations with a local news crew in tow and confront the guy at the counter about gasoline prices. He wasn't confronting the real culprit (or really any culprit) then, and Neugebauer isn't now.

    This is the very definition of straw man.
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Of course blame the Congressman, talk about a strawman, how about the one who ordered the guards out to close the memorial from being visited? Your condemnation is nothing more than democratic party liberal pathetic story telling. Another talking point of the DNC posted on debatepolitics by someone claiming to lean "other" when they are nothing but liberal partisan hacks.

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Of course blame the Congressman, talk about a strawman, how about the one who ordered the guards out to close the memorial from being visited? Your condemnation is nothing more than democratic party liberal pathetic story telling. Another talking point of the DNC posted on debatepolitics by someone claiming to lean "other" when they are nothing but liberal partisan hacks.
    Please quote the portion of my post where I implied the Congressman at the center of this story is in any way responsible for either the spending impasse or the closing of the memorial.
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Of course blame the Congressman, talk about a strawman, how about the one who ordered the guards out to close the memorial from being visited? Your condemnation is nothing more than democratic party liberal pathetic story telling. Another talking point of the DNC posted on debatepolitics by someone claiming to lean "other" when they are nothing but liberal partisan hacks.
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    The issue here is that the government has spent more money screwing over old veterans than they would have if they had not Park Service rangers to man the sidewalks. It's blatant style over substance and it worked out to be a poor public relations move implemented by a really stupid person.
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Republicans love the vets so much they are kicking 170,000n off food stamps! While those pose for photo's with vets. That all you need to know about those terrorist.

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by greengirl77 View Post
    Republicans love the vets so much they are kicking 170,000n off food stamps! While those pose for photo's with vets. That all you need to know about those terrorist.
    In what universe are republicans kicking anyone off of food stamps let alone targeting vets?

    Republicans wanted food stamp reform, of course that translates into the progressive mind as "republicans want to see everyone starve."

    You progressives love abuse of social programs - you love it and don't give a **** if these programs are being abused....

    Meanwhile food stamps are being purchased by shady store owners at 50 cents on the dollar - not only that but they're being used to buy products that are unessential forbidden such as alcohol, cigarettes, pre-made food products , fast food, soda etc....

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Of course blame the Congressman, talk about a strawman, how about the one who ordered the guards out to close the memorial from being visited? Your condemnation is nothing more than democratic party liberal pathetic story telling. Another talking point of the DNC posted on debatepolitics by someone claiming to lean "other" when they are nothing but liberal partisan hacks.
    Trying re-reading his post again and think about it.

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Of course blame the Congressman, talk about a strawman, how about the one who ordered the guards out to close the memorial from being visited? Your condemnation is nothing more than democratic party liberal pathetic story telling. Another talking point of the DNC posted on debatepolitics by someone claiming to lean "other" when they are nothing but liberal partisan hacks.
    I don't agree with you. The congressman was dead wrong. "You should be ashamed." Why should a lowly park ranger be ashamed for doing her job? The guy's a jerk. Someone even stepped up to defend the lady. Said something like, "Hey! She's just doing her job. Congress should be ashamed. They're the ones who've put us in this position." (He wasn't even partisan in what he said -- blaming "Congress." And that's where the blame DOES lie.

    That congressman was a jerk. And partisanship has nothing to do with it.

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't agree with you. The congressman was dead wrong. "You should be ashamed." Why should a lowly park ranger be ashamed for doing her job? The guy's a jerk. Someone even stepped up to defend the lady. Said something like, "Hey! She's just doing her job. Congress should be ashamed. They're the ones who've put us in this position." (He wasn't even partisan in what he said -- blaming "Congress." And that's where the blame DOES lie.

    That congressman was a jerk. And partisanship has nothing to do with it.
    Actually, the park service has to go out of their way to close some of these parks which are un-manned to begin with. While the Park Service falls under the Department of the Interior, run by Obama appointee Sally Jewell. So if there's anyone to blame it's the DoI for following the President's political move of shutting down un-manned parks.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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