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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Actually, Reid has been very clear about the fact that the Democrats would be willing to discuss compromise -- just not while the whole of the discretionary budget is held hostage.
    Compromise to Reid is "give me what I and the rest of the Senate wants or no deal"

    That's how democrats view compromise....

    Hell, as a staunch libertarian I wouldn't even talk to democrats if I held a seat in the House...

    I would have absolutely no desire to play their hostage games.....

    These ****clown democrats are actually relying on the media to portray the republicans responsible for this mess and they're attempting to use that nonsense as a bargaining chip....

    Obamacare is so important to them because it gives socioeconomic control over to the federal government on every aspect from social ideas to economic ideas. The totalitarians in the Senate need Obamacare to continue their fascist totalitarian agenda.

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    It still is, try again.
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    no. if the park rangers are mostly on furlough, then there is not sufficient staff to keep the facility operational
    The WW2 Memorial doesn't need staff.....
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Compromise to Reid is "give me what I and the rest of the Senate wants or no deal"
    No, Compromise to Reid is "stop using the discretionary spending as leverage and we'll talk."

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    That's how democrats view compromise....

    Hell, as a staunch libertarian I wouldn't even talk to democrats if I held a seat in the House...

    I would have absolutely no desire to play their hostage games.....

    These ****clown democrats are actually relying on the media to portray the republicans responsible for this mess and they're attempting to use that nonsense as a bargaining chip....

    Obamacare is so important to them because it gives socioeconomic control over to the federal government on every aspect from social ideas to economic ideas. The totalitarians in the Senate need Obamacare to continue their fascist totalitarian agenda.
    Everything you just said about the Democrats applies equally to the Republicans. Both sides have a hardon over the ACA, neither side is budging, both sides are pointing fingers.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Democrats are refusing to negotiate while Republicans refuse to fund the government, Republicans refuse to fund the government unless the ACA is delayed. That is the very definition of holding something hostage, and the very definition of two sides being equally unwilling to compromise.
    Wow, in what world does passing funding bills count as a refusal to fund the government? Seriously. You cannot argue that the Republicans are refusing to fund the government. At least not rationally.

    Passing budgets, proposing four different CRs, proposing individual funding bills and passing them all = refusal to fund the government?

    This is what Democrats are stooping to? Arguments like that?

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The WW2 Memorial doesn't need staff.....
    not true
    that open-air hole in the ground, the grand canyon, has staff
    it is closed too
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    not true
    that open-air hole in the ground, the grand canyon, has staff
    it is closed too
    It also doesn't need staff. It isn't going anywhere and doesn't even require maintenance.
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, Compromise to Reid is "stop using the discretionary spending as leverage and we'll talk."



    Everything you just said about the Democrats applies equally to the Republicans. Both sides have a hardon over the ACA, neither side is budging, both sides are pointing fingers.
    Wow... Really? Neither side is budging? Wtf do you call moving from full repeal to full defund to delay? Seriously, Wtf do you call that if not budging from a previously held position?

    My god, the lengths people will go to ignore reality is amazing...

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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The WW2 Memorial doesn't need staff.....
    Exactly. It, along with numerous other monuments they're barricading are open air monuments. It's just petty, nasty vindictiveness that is actually squandering money to pay for the labor to erect the necessary barricades to keep people away from them. There is ZERO fiscal reason to erect the barricades and man them except to exercise their bullying natures.
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    Re: Sharp Words Over Shutdown When Lawmaker Visits WWII Memorial

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the federal parks are government assets which must be protected
    they must also not impose a public hazard
    Ever been to those parks? And as you will note...the Park Police is NOT furloughed. they are on duty...locking people out.

    The lockdown of monuments is nothing more than a petty act of a pathetic petty small minded 'leader'.

    Its a cheap way to deal with the situation, an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. Weve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. Its disgusting.

    Read more: PRUDEN: The cheap tricks of the game - Washington Times

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