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    Re: Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Nice dodge.

    Again, whose making demands in this situation?
    No dodge at all.

    The House passed legislation and the President and Senate have enacted a partial shutdown of the government demanding changes to that legislation.
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    Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Oh yes, lets continue with the "Constitutional Law Professor in the White House"....isn't it the same one that claimed it was OK for Bush to waterboard terrorists? And no, impeachment would NOT be ludicrous. Obama has already ignored enough of the Constitution. I personally feel that he should have been impeach a long time ago. But frankly people are too scared to impeach the first black president. (and before you play the race card...I though he should have been impeached when he bombed Libya even after the limit that is placed in the Constitution and with out once having had Congressional approval, a VERY legitimate reason)

    The rest of your post is nothing more than hyperbole.
    Oh, yeah. He should be impeached for....stuff.

    I bet you have a long list of impeachable 'offenses' to list. Spare us the details.

    But in non-bizarro land, impeaching a President for exercising Good judgement in not letting the nation default would be absolutely inexcusable.
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    Re: Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Oh, yeah. He should be impeached for....stuff.

    I bet you have a long list of impeachable 'offenses' to list. Spare us the details.

    But in non-bizarro land, impeaching a President for exercising Good judgement in not letting the nation default would be absolutely inexcusable.
    Nope, don't have a long list. Just Libya.

    And it is NOT good judgement for the President to TAKE more power for themselves and TAKE power away from those that do have the power. No matter the reason. If our legislative body can't get their act together enough to pass a spending bill then we DESERVE to take a hit for this. Its called taking responsibility and accepting the consequences for ones actions. And frankly people need to learn this. And every single person in this country would be at fault for LETTING our legislative body for acting like spoiled little brats. Both Republicans AND Democrats are to blame here. Instead of demanding that the President violate the Constitution you should be clamoring at your congressmen and senators to get thier act together, and if they don't vote them the heck out of office. Too many congressmen and senators keep getting re-elected when they should have been booted long ago. And that is The Peoples fault.
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    Re: Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    No dodge at all.

    The House passed legislation and the President and Senate have enacted a partial shutdown of the government demanding changes to that legislation.
    spinning like mad I see. Passing a CR with ranson demands on it. That's the house fabricating demands. They will fail.
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    Re: Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    spinning like mad I see. Passing a CR with ranson demands on it. That's the house fabricating demands. They will fail.
    LOL. Spin? No spin at all. It's the truth and you just don't like the truth. Here it is again: "The House passed legislation and the President and Senate have enacted a partial shutdown of the government demanding changes to that legislation."

    If you are not happy with Obama and the Senate Dems holding the federal government "hostage" (a term the liberals have been using) complain to them. They are the ones that have instituted a partial federal government shutdown, not the GOP. The GOP passed a bill that would have funded the government.
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    Re: Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    spinning like mad I see. Passing a CR with ranson demands on it. That's the house fabricating demands. They will fail.
    So, where's your presidents leadership? I swear, all we have in DC are children.
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    Re: Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, where's your presidents leadership? I swear, all we have in DC are children.
    HOw does a demcratic president lead a house full of tempertantrum throwing republicans who admit that their only goal was to stand against him by all means necessary?
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    Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. Spin? No spin at all. It's the truth and you just don't like the truth. Here it is again: "The House passed legislation and the President and Senate have enacted a partial shutdown of the government demanding changes to that legislation."

    If you are not happy with Obama and the Senate Dems holding the federal government "hostage" (a term the liberals have been using) complain to them. They are the ones that have instituted a partial federal government shutdown, not the GOP. The GOP passed a bill that would have funded the government.
    And what happens when the President sends back the CR and says he won't sign it unless funding is put in to register all handguns federally?


    When the House refuses to compromise will you say the House is being unreasonable and the President ISNT holding the country hostage?

    It's the same thing, but reversed.
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    Re: Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Wrong - Obama's saying "Don't force me to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling" is what's going on.
    No, Obama has specifically said he will not raise the debt ceiling unilaterally, that he doesn't believe the 14th Amendment is empowered to. He is saying to Congress "Do your job."
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    Can President Obama Unilaterally Raise the Debt Ceiling?

    Quote Originally Posted by aberrant85 View Post
    No, Obama has specifically said he will not raise the debt ceiling unilaterally, that he doesn't believe the 14th Amendment is empowered to. He is saying to Congress "Do your job."
    That's what he has to say.

    But when Jack Lew comes into his office and says- 'I need to write the interest check on the bonds', you know damn well he's gonna pull out his trillion dollar coin.
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