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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    from your link
    "particularly concerning considering he had to have two stents placed in his heart in 2006." preexisting condition

    and I will repeat what I posted on the other page

    the large majority of those who have or will sign up on the exchanges will be the ones with preexisting conditions that is going to require expensive treatment and not enough young healthy people will enroll to offset the cost because one they don't need it two because it is cheaper to pay the fine. insurance companies will just have to increase premiums even higher then they already are to make up the cost which will drive more and more healthy individuals not to enroll or drop their exchange insurance and like the snowball effect Obama care will collapse from its own cost

    so please post more and more of these preexisting conditions signing up for Obama care stories it will collapse it
    so you think it is ok for that man to pay more for insurance just because he has a preexisting condition, which by the way is the reason he is still alive?

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    so you think it is ok for that man to pay more for insurance just because he has a preexisting condition, which by the way is the reason he is still alive?
    the only way for Obama care to work is you are going to need for every 1 person with preexisting conditions who sign up that will require expensive treatment you will need 3 or 4 health individuals that require no treatments to offset the cost. if all you have or just the majority that sign up are the ones with preexisting conditions premiums will sky rocket which will cause less and less healthy individuals to sign up. its will collapse from it own cost. no insurance companies will eat the cost and will drop from the exchanges
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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    it only way for Obama care to work is you going to need for every 1 person with preexisting conditions whi sign up that will require expensive treatment you will need 3 or 4 health individuals that require no treatments to offset the cost. if all you have or just the majority that sign up are the ones with preexisting conditions premiums will sky rocket which will cause less and less healthy individuals to sign up it will collapse from it own cost no insurance companies will eat the cost and will drop from the exchanges
    considering how 2 million people went to look at the healthcare.gov website yesterday, i am pretty sure more will follow suit.

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    considering how 2 million people went to look at the healthcare.gov website yesterday, i am pretty sure more will follow suit.
    link please

    the link you provided in the other thread I asked the question "how many enrolled" you only gave me 300,000 visits. if you go by the trends established by the only 3 states that did post the number on enrollment Louisiana 0 Connecticut 167 Wisconsin fewer than 300

    so are you just pulling the 2 mil out your ass or do you have a source

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    How can you possibly read? Is there light in there?
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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    link please

    the link you provided in the other thread I asked the question "how many enrolled" you only gave me 300,000 visits. if you go by the trends established by the only 3 states that did post the number on enrollment Louisiana 0 Connecticut 167 Wisconsin fewer than 300

    so are you just pulling the 2 mil out your ass or do you have source
    i got the 2.8 million number from this article, which reported that was how many people visited Healthcare.gov

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/02/us...s-open.html?hp

    and i got plenty more headlines for you

    from gerogia
    Enrollment Web site swamped, agent says | The Augusta Chronicle

    from idaho

    Idaho health exchange launches with few hiccups | The High Costs of Idaho Health Care | Idahostatesman.com

    from kentucky

    http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...ervice-outages

    from california

    Demand is strong as Obamacare enrollment starts in California - latimes.com

    from south carolina

    COLUMBIA, SC: Insurance website overwhelmed by first-day shoppers | Local News | The State

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So they had the meeting and apparently it lasted for about an hour and half....so they must have talked about something. But I don't know, it doesn't look very promising judging by the separate press conferences that Reid, Pelosi and Boehner just had.
    Here is how it went

    Obama: Ted Crus is an idiot.
    Boehner: I know but he got me a two for one at the tanning booth.
    Ried: Really I like Cruz that dip he brought at the last meeting was great!
    McConnell: meep meep meep meep.
    Obama: So how can we end this/
    Ried: Hey McConnell make sure Cruz brings the dip to the poker game.
    Boehner: I dunno?
    McConnell: Meep Meep Meep Meep!
    Boehner: I need a drink hey Barack wanna go play golf Saturday we aint got nothing better to do.

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    How can you possibly read? Is there light in there?
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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The mandate is unpopular. Virtually every other part is quite popular when you actually ask people questions about things the bill actually does.

    (rather than, say, making up stories about death panels and congressional exemptions)
    Do you find it odd that Republicans want to repeal a measure that nudges people towards self responsibility and penalizes those who steal insurance money?
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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    "President Barack Obama has invited congressional leaders to the White House to discuss the government shutdown and the debt ceiling, according to spokeswoman Amy Brundage.

    Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calf., have been asked to attend a meeting at 5:30 p.m.

    So far the shutdown has seen a surprising lack of communication among the top leaders, with Boehner demanding the president agree to roll back the Affordable Care Act and Obama and Reid refusing to consider any such concessions under threat of shutdown or default.

    Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck released a statement welcoming the invite: Were pleased the president finally recognizes that his refusal to negotiate is indefensible. Its unclear why wed be having this meeting if its not meant to be a start to serious talks between the two parties.
    Obama Invites Leaders to White House to Talk Shutdown, Debt : Roll Call News


    LOL. Why anyone believes anything he says is beyond me.
    Leave the government shut down until funding ObamaCare is off the table.

    Shut the government down any and every time a UHC funding bill is up for vote.

    Once that's acomplished, shut the government down untill all Czars are removed.

    Then shut the government down and audit the Fed.

    Then shut the government down untill all US forces are out of afghanistan.

    Then shut the government down and abolish the IRS.

    Then shut the government down and abolish the ATF.

    As you can see I'm not a big fan of the government up and running in the first place. Shut it down and leave it off forever.
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