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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    Just like Obamacare, slavery and segregation were fiercely defended by Democrats until they were abolished.
    Hey, kids, Diogenes got the rightwing memo on this! Like clockwork.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats should negotiate. They should sit down with the tea baggers and demand a tax hike on the rich, a huge cut I military spending, the repeal of Citizens United, an excise tax on all financial transactions of the rich, and everything else they couldn't get in regulator legislation. No funding the government until progressive get everything they want.

    Let the negotiations begin!

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They aren't blackmailing anything. They've offered clean CR bills, offered to negotiate on actual budget issues, even gathered some GOP support for this in the House.

    You are objectively wrong.
    By the liberals standards, what they are doing is "blackmail". No getting around it. They get their way or nobody gets anything, according to what they have said and done.

    Lets also not forget, when the Democrats were dumb enough to change the legislative process on Obamadon'tcare, they ended up passing it on a budget bill because they didn't have the votes the regular way. So if it was passed on a budget bill there is not a better place to change the funding of it than a budget bill. Right where the Democrats placed it to begin with.
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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Hey, kids, Diogenes got the rightwing memo on this! Like clockwork.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats should negotiate. They should sit down with the tea baggers and demand a tax hike on the rich, a huge cut I military spending, the repeal of Citizens United, an excise tax on all financial transactions of the rich, and everything else they couldn't get in regulator legislation. No funding the government until progressive get everything they want.

    Let the negotiations begin!
    great..... let them negotiate a straight income tax with no write-offs, and a 90 % top bracket......that will fix America!

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diogenes View Post
    I think I do.
    The democrats back then were conservatives.

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. But Obama and the Senate Dems "blackmail" of the rest of the federal government is fine. Because they don't want something changed that they changed, they hurt the nation and all is good.
    That's not blackmail -- that's upholding the law.

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    great..... let them negotiate a straight income tax with no write-offs, and a 90 % top bracket......that will fix America!
    No, we get to negotiate what we want not what the conservatives want. See, that's a negotiation.

    The GOP opened the door to using funding to negotiate their agenda. The Democrats should call their bluff and put everything on the table that they want. See, that's a negotiation.

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    No, we get to negotiate what we want not what the conservatives want. See, that's a negotiation.

    The GOP opened the door to using funding to negotiate their agenda. The Democrats should call their bluff and put everything on the table that they want. See, that's a negotiation.
    fine, let them go at it.

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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That's not blackmail -- that's upholding the law.
    Sorry, refusing to even try to meet their constitutional obligations is not "upholding the law". It's tyranny.
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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That's not blackmail -- that's upholding the law.
    That statement is a bit of a stretch, considering all the illegal waivers that Obama has handed out to his supporters and donors.
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    Re: Negotations start this evening.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Sorry, refusing to even try to meet their constitutional obligations is not "upholding the law". It's tyranny.
    Funding laws so they can function is upholding the law. Tyranny is subverting the legislative process to repeal laws one party doesn't want.

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