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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    This is your opinion that cannot be supported by anything other than partisan rhetoric.



    This is your opinion that cannot be supported by anything other than a select set of polls that are not even borderline scientific.



    Probably already posted, but i find it relevant to this discussion none the less:



    The rest of the article can be found here.
    A select set of polls? Try ALL the polls, even by organizations that are Pro ACA. ALSO it is fact that the country cannot afford it, as the country cannot afford ANY additional spending.
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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, and the people are against Obamacare, so much for them representing the people.
    You know, continuously claiming the above does not make it true.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, and the people are against Obamacare, so much for them representing the people.
    not according to this poll from quinnipiac.

    American voters oppose 72 - 22 percent Congress shutting down the federal government to block implementation of the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today.

    Voters also oppose 64 - 27 percent blocking an increase in the nation's debt ceiling as a way to stop Obamacare, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

    American voters are divided on Obamacare, with 45 percent in favor and 47 percent opposed, but they are opposed 58 - 34 percent to Congress cutting off funding for the health care law to stop its implementation.

    Republicans support the federal government shutdown by a narrow 49 - 44 percent margin, but opposition is 90 - 6 percent among Democrats and 74 - 19 percent among independent voters.

    President Barack Obama gets a negative 45 - 49 percent overall job approval rating, compared to his 46 - 48 percent score August 2.

    American voters disapprove 74 - 17 percent of the job Republicans in Congress are doing, their lowest score ever, and disapprove 60 - 32 percent of the job Democrats are doing.
    National (US) Poll - October 1, 2013 - American Voters Reject GOP Shu | Quinnipiac University Connecticut

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Did you actually read those stats or were you busy celebrating? Shows, even on this skewed poll, that Americans are, in the majority, NOT in favor of Obamacare.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Did you actually read those stats or were you busy celebrating? Shows, even on this skewed poll, that Americans are, in the majority, NOT in favor of Obamacare.
    Who chimes "No Absolutes!" chimes absolutely.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    You know, continuously claiming the above does not make it true.
    No, but poll after poll, liberal and conservative polling outfits, say the same thing - the majority of Americans are against Obamacare.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Are you obtuse? Seriously? You really think this is the first time the House of Representatives have dealt with the issue of obamafarce? Have you been living in a bubble and ignore the 41 other times they voted to terminate the stupid act? Harry and the senate won't allow it to a vote so now the Republicans must do what they were elected to do with teeth - deal with it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    When one duly elected legislative body waits until the 0 hour to deal with this why should the other duly elected legislative body or the president capitulate? If they wanted to conference about this they should have started 6 months ago. Does anyone really think that anyone would sit down and try to negotiate altering a signature piece of legislation in a single evening or even a week or month?

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    And why can't the people have the same thing? Why "must" they join now but the corps not? Because the golfing dictator says so - I hope they tell him tough luck and where to go.


    Quote Originally Posted by Swit View Post
    You do understand the corporate waivers only allow the businesses that were approved to continue to offer health plans WITH annual maximum benefit provisions. They aren't exempt from the ACA, only the provision that states the plans must have unlimited annual benefits. That's it... And only until 2014.

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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Guess you don't know the history. You should do some research.
    What did I get wrong?
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    Re: Democrats Hold

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    A select set of polls? Try ALL the polls, even by organizations that are Pro ACA.
    Show me one poll that shows opposition in excess of the margin of error.

    ALSO it is fact that the country cannot afford it, as the country cannot afford ANY additional spending.
    You are presenting an opinion.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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